Grateful Dead Compilations ??/??/39 {DttC024} 1972-08-27, 09-28, 11-19: Veneta, Jersey City, Houston [SHNIDs 3328, 26933, 17705]

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{DttC024} 1972-08-27, 09-28, 11-19: Veneta, Jersey City, Houston [SHNIDs 3328, 26933, 17705]

                                Grateful Dead

                      08/27/72

          Old Renaissance Fairground, Veneta OR

Lineage:

SBD->two-track MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR->EAC->

Sound Forge Edit (analog pop removal using pencil tool)->

Sound Forge Pitch Shift (antialias filter followed by pitch shift

of +19 cents)

David Gans seeded the show (SBD->MR->DAT->Sonic Solutions->CDR).

Adam Jerugim obtained a CDR copy, EAC\'d and uploaded it to orf.cx.

Leigh Orf did all the post-processing (Sound Forge stuff).

Note: This is *not* the Betty Board source which has circulated before.

This source came from a different two-track master reel (made by the

folks filming the Sunshine Daydream movie) and is mixed differently.

Disc 1

Set 1

1. [ 4:14.13] Stage Announcements                    

2. [ 3:36.65] The Promised Land                      

3. [ 9:15.23] Sugaree                                

4. [ 3:27.26] Me And My Uncle                        

5. [ 4:40.57] Deal                                    

6. [ 7:10.26] Black Throated Wind                    

7. [15:05.18] China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider

8. [ 3:43.36] Mexicali Blues

9. [ 5:53.40] Bertha

     --------

     57:07.04

Disc 2

Set 2

1. [18:38.49] Playin\' In The Band *

2. [ 2:20.74] Stage Announcements

3. [ 8:45.74] He\'s Gone

4. [ 0:32.22] Stage Chatter

5. [ 5:04.35] Jack Straw

6. [12:33.67] Bird Song @

7. [ 0:28.24] Stage Announcements

8. [ 5:32.18] Greatest Story Ever Told

     --------

     53:56.63

Disc 3

Set 3

1. [ 0:58.05] Stage Announcements

2. [31:13.05] Dark Star ->

3. [ 5:19.02] El Paso

4. [10:25.61] Sing Me Back Home

5. [ 0:48.32] Stage Announcements

6. [ 8:30.16] Sugar Magnolia $

7. [ 2:06.40] Stage Announcements

8. [ 6:12.02] Casey Jones

9. [ 5:26.43] One More Saturday Night

10. [ 6:24.10] Stage Announcements &

     --------

     77:23.66

Footnotes:

*  First 57 seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Gans)

@  At about 6:50 two seconds spliced from Betty Reel (Orf)

$  Piano distortion starting at 5:05 is on original reel

   (somewhat cleaned up by Orf)

&  Stage Announcements can be eliminated to fit disc 3 on a 74 min CD-R

General Comments:

In all the circulating copies of this show I\'ve heard, including

this one, small analog pops were scattered throughout. I believe

they originated at the soundboard or from one of the band member\'s

instruments. I edited out about 100 of these (hopefully all of them)

with the Sound Forge pencil tool. Click removal software was not smart

enough to find and fix these particular pops.

I noticed as I was listening to this show that it sounded kind of

flat/sour/sluggish. When I finally sat down to give it a thorough

listen, I noticed that there was a definite speed change where Betty

source entered the new source 57 seconds into Playin\'. I determined by

using a handheld tuner and the spectrum analyzer of Sound Forge that

the Betty reel was in tune and that the new source was slow (primarily

tuning the show to where the band is tuning after Sugaree; I made Phil\'s

A3 tune to exactly 220 Hz). Happily, by \"tuning\" (speeding up) the new

source, everything sounds \"right\" and the transition from the Betty

source into this source in Playin\' no longer had that audible speed

slowdown.  I did a pitch shift of +19 cents on all of the show (except

the first 57 seconds of Playin\') which effectively \"played the original

reel a little faster\". Shntool was used to fix the track boundaries

which were now off due to the pitch shift (all the wav files were

shorter).

I was able to make the piano overmodulation distortion starting about

five minutes into Sugar Magnolia slightly more palatable by pulling out

the high frequency components of the distortion using the Sound Forge

Click Removal algorithm and some hand editing. It still sounds bad, but

distortion of this nature is nearly impossible to fix.

Finally, some comments about how this show sounds different from the

Betty source. This reel was originated from the folks who were filming

the Sunshine Daydream movie. The movie source sounds \"clearer\"; there

is a better defined high end which leads to a less \"veiled\" sound than

the Betty source. Vocals and high-hat sound clearer and higher in the

mix. Bass is mixed lower; the low bass is especially thin on the movie

source, while the mid-bass is fine. The Betty source, to my ears, sounds

more \"veiled\" than the new source, and more bassy. The movie source

has more tape hiss than the Betty source, but it\'s hiss only from the

original reel. My guess is the Betty reels used some form of noise

reduction (Dolby A?) while the movie source did not. In my opinion, this

is the best sounding version of this show currently circulating.

Enjoy, and feel free to send comments my way. Thanks again to David Gans

and Adam Jerugim for making this possible.

Leigh Orf

http://orf.cx

written March 10, 2001

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   188:27.58     1994692404 B                            0.5336  (27 files)

==========

Grateful Dead

9-28-72

Stanley Theater  

Jersey City, NJ

Primary Source:  SBD>MR>DAT>CDR>WAV>SHN>WAV>FLAC.

Secondary source:  Unknown audience > C > ? > DAT >WAV > FLAC.

See note about alternative tracking below.

Disc 1 - Set 1

01  Truckin\'

02  Loser

03  Beat it on down the line

04  Brown-Eyed Women

05  Mexicali Blues

06  Mississippi Half-step

07  Black-Throated Wind

08  Don\'t Ease Me In

09  Big River

10  Tennessee Jed

11  Promised Land

12  China Cat Sunflower >

13  I Know You Rider

Disc 2 - Set 1 (cont\'d)

01. Playin\' In The Band

Set 2

02  Bertha>>

03  Greatest story ever told

04  Brokedown palace

05  Me & my uncle

06  Ramble on rose

07  Tuning

08  El Paso

09  He\'s Gone >

Disc 3 - Set 2 (cont\'d)

01  Drums >

02  The Other One >

03  Jam >

04  Me & Bobby Magee >

05  The Other One >

06  Wharf Rat

07  Sugar Magnolia

08  Not Fade Away > Going Down The Road > Not Fade Away

Original SBD source via previously circulated SHNs http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=12657

Audience splice material provided by Uli Teute via Jim Powell.

Comments/flaws:

d1t01 - Truckin\' completely absent from all previous sources;  from audience.

d1t02 - muted vocals for 1st ~5:50 of Loser - on all copies.

d1t06 - missing 01:52 seconds of Half Step starting at \"Across the rio grand-e-o... (04:00) spliced from audience source

d1t11 - splice from audience source completes the cut in IKYR.

d2t03 - removed short redundancy 05:23.4 - 05:45.7.

d3t05 - Fixed pop at 0:24.4 & 26.9 due to L&R channel inversion & dropout at 12:27.1

d3t06 - Removed 0.77 sec dropout at 0:48.3

Also the show is now tracked in order with the encore at the end of disc 3.

*** ALTERNATIVE TRACKING ***

Even though the entire show can be burnt in order on 3 80 minute discs, it has been recommended by Jim Powell that it is aesthetically better to burn the shows on 4 discs.

disc 1 - unchanged.

disc 2 - last track ends up being El Paso (second to last track as above).

disc 3 - starts out with last track of \"d2\" - \"He\'s Gone - and runs through Wharf Rat.

disc 4 - Sugar Mag > NFA > GDTRFB > NFA.

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   220:25.14    2332924248 B                      (totals for 30 files)

==========

Grateful Dead

Hofheinz Pavillion  

Houston, TX

11-19-72

Source: SBD>MR>Reel>Reel>DAT>CD>EAC>WAV>CoolEdit2000>SHN

(Note that there is speculation that this source may contain only one reel generation.)

DISC 1

Set 1

1.  Bertha

2.  Me & My Uncle

3.  Sugaree

4.  Beat It On Down The Line

5.  Bird Song

6.  Black Throated Wind

7.  Don\'t Ease Me In

8.  Mexicali Blues

9.  Box Of Rain

10. Tomorrow Is Forever

11. Big River

12. China Cat Sunflower >

13. I Know You Rider

DISC 2

1.  Nickelodeon Tuning

2.  Playin\' In The Band

3.  Casey Jones

Set 2

4.  Promised Land

5.  Ramble On Rose

6.  El Paso

7.  //Stella Blue

8.  Jack Straw

Disc 3

1.  Dark Star > Weather Report Suite Prelude >

2.  Mississippi Half Step

3.  Around & Around

4.  Big Railroad Blues

5.  Tuning

6.  Sugar Magnolia >

7.  Goin\' Down The Road Feelin\' Bad

Notes:

- There are sound/mix adjustments during Bertha.

- The first 0:55 of Me & My Uncle was amplified by 3db due to low levels.

- There is a cut in Rider at 0:14 with part of the first chorus missing.

- There is a cut in Playin at 0:09 with the very first line of \"Some folks trust in reason\" missing.

- First few notes of Stella Blue are missing.

- A splice in Dark Star at 28:19 was smoothed with a cross-fade.

- In Dark Star from approximately 25:25 to 28:19 Phil\'s bass almost completely disappears. Cool Edit\'s FFT Filter was used to boost the frequency range between 25hz and 375hz.  This was partially effective as the time interval from 25:35 to 26:47 apparently contains no bass frequencies.

- Mississippi Half Step was amplified by 2db due to low levels.

- A few minor pops & clicks were removed.

EAC in secure mode, offset corrected.  All processing/edits performed with Cool Edit 2000. Disc retracking with CDWave.  Seekable shorten encoding with MKW.  Sector boundaries verified with shntool.  D.Winters - 11/30/02.

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