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Beck with the Flaming Lips; KCRW Webcast (128 Kbps MP3 Stream) >WAV>EAC(split wav)>SHN

Beck (Backed by the Flaming Lips)
KCRW Morning Becomes Eclectic
89.9 FM Radio
Santa Monica, CA (USA)
Aired Tuesday, December 24, 2002

http:www.kcrw.org

Source: SoundBoard>KCRW Webcast (128 Kbps MP3 Stream) >WAV>EAC(split wav)>SHN

Seeded by: bldymsofpsnsht

Set List:

1 Interview Part 1
2 the golden age
3 Interview Part 2
4 we live again
5 Interview Part 3
6 cold brains
7 Interview Part 4
8 do you realize?? (Written by The Flaming Lips)
9 lonesome tears
10 lost cause
11 little one
12 Interview Part 5
13 paper tiger
14 Interview Part 6
15 the new pollution

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            !PLEASE DO NOT DELETE THIS IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THIS TEXT FILE!
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                    The Flaming Lips - The Bootleg Archive Project

Who?  Started by me, Ryan Mulberger.  

What is it?  It is the group effort to compile the largest and hopefully the most complete
collection of live, promo and Interview Flaming Lips audio.

What format?  We want to keep the audio "lossless."  Which means saving the audio data as .wav,
.shn, .flac, .ape.  (see http://www.etree.org).  (We prefer .shn.)

Purity:  I hope to "weed out" inferrior audio files from circulation.  
Currently the average trader burns his or her own CD-Rs (at 16 bit / 44.1 Khz).  
In the past many people traded cassette tapes, that were Generations copied from other copies.
Hopefully, this project can find master copies and share better audio files (than those
CD-Rs made from the cassette tapes).  I know there are many flaming lips DAT recordings out there
as well as many other Master cassette tapes, Minidiscs, etc.  I want to make sure we preserve all
recordings at their highest potential sampling and bit rate.  I hope you will all join in and
collaborate shows.  All you have to do is join the Flaming Lips DC++ group here:
Just get ahold of me, Mulberger, and well evaluate & compare what we have.

It is extremely important to put the seeder's information down in the text file.
( A "seeder" is the orignal person who began sharing the audio files that "flourish and
spread" all over the internet and HUB users.)  That way we know who the files came from and can
contact them about show related info, recording equipment or sound quality.

* Analog Cassette Masters:  If anyone has master bootlegs they made on cassette tapes, I can now
make 24 bit / 96 Khz recordings out of them.  I urge you to digitally preserve them, otherwise
the cassette tapes ages every day and will one day finally jam, rip, flake, gum up or disintegrate!

Data:  I also hope this will result in more text files on each bootleg's setlist, date,
location, venue name, band line-up, the opening bands, and recording equipment.  

Preservation:  I plan on making master back-up data DVD-Rs of all the shows.
I will continue to share all the shows I have and will be leaving my computer on as much as
possible so that other fans can enjoy these great live shows.  I think it is important to make
a physical DVD-R back-up of all the shows so that other fans will have continued access to free
shared live music files.  The DVD-Rs will be used to distribute large amounts of files to those
without hi-bandwidth modems or for trading tree ("Pyramid") schemes.  Lastly, the back-ups will
be provided to our homepage in hopes of one day having the official OK and financial backing to
put these on a webpage via our own server...big dreams there!

I am building a new computer than can run 8 hard drives, so I will serve as a 24/7 HUB access.
I will have a 1.5Mbps cable modem hooked up to it (but I don't know the upload speed yet).

Video?: I plan on making DVD-Rs from various bootleg VHS Tapes.  This is another large project
within itself.  I would like to get ahold of the Master recordings for preservation.  
I will keep everyone posted via the website below as to when this project begins.  I'm also
planning a LP > DVD-R (24/96) project.   But that's just for personal use (not for trades).
So basically, if you can prove you own the record or CD or CS, you can have a hi-fi DVD-Audio of
it providing you pay for the blank media and shipping.
Feel free to e-mail me at: soyelcomandante@hotmail.com

Website info: http://flaminglips.netfirms.com
(please visit!  There's a trade post, discography, bootlegography, tourography, interviews, etc!)

Do you have Master Bootlegs?  If you don't have the time or the transferring equipment, let me
do it for you.  Currently I only have the capabilities to convert 8-Tracks, Cassettes, LPs,
and 7"s.  If you have DAT bootlegs, you may want to find a friend that can make an
identical wav file from it.  e-mail me at: soyelcomandante@hotmail.com


----------------------------The (unofficial) Flaming Lips Taping Policy--------------------------

Scott D. Booker on the Flaming Lips taping policy (May 15, 2002)

"Our attitude has always been - you can tape all you want - but we don't want to be involved.
In other words, we'll tell the clubs we're ok with it, but we don't have the time to go into any
special effort to hook you up to the board or anything. Some clubs have policies of not allowing
tapers, because they tape the shows and try to sell them to the bands. We can't override that -
it's usually in the contract for the show that we're not even allowed to tape - that's why we
don't put too much effort into it. Our show is so difficult to make happen in the first place
that we have to put all of our energy into that!" (end quote)

Personally, I stick to stealth taping the Flaming Lips shows.  It gives you a good chance of
getting your recording equipment in and leaving with a decent recording.  To date, I have never
seen anyone openly taping a flaming lips concert.  - Ryan Mulberger

------------------------------The Official Mercury Rev Taping Policy-----------------------------

Mercury Rev features Jonathan Donahue (of Flaming Lips fame).  What's pretty cool is the like
bootlegs!  We do too!  So, they encourage and OPENLY allow kids to tape their shows.  They say
they don't like video bootlegs, but the kids seems to videotape the band anyhow and the band
doesn't make a fuss about it.  So, this gives you a great chance to perfect your bootlegging
skills  without all that nervous looking over your shoulder stuff.  There's a good possibility
you can bring in microphone stands and all the other recording gadgetry you have.  They say they
will set aside room by the soundboard, but my experince was thier soundman said "setup anywhere
you want."  There was no designated "special" recording area, like at phish concerts.  Oh, and
their soundman did not offer me a patch into the console.  I didn't ask and he didn't offer.
So it's probably best not to mess with it since they allow you to tape live shows.  

This is what their website says:

"A message for anyone interested in making an audio recording of a live Mercury Rev show: please
feel free to do so, what's ours is yours. You may want to check with the venue beforehand to be
sure that they will allow it. We'll do our best to set aside an area somewhere near the mixing
console for you to set up. Unfortunately, we cannot provide a direct feed to the console.
Eventually, we would like to post some of these live shows on our site, so if you've got some
recordings that you'd like to share via our website, contact us."

webmaster@mercuryrev.com

(Taken from http://www.mercuryrev.com/content/Welcome.html)

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