Grateful Dead 05/08/77
Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY
Source # 4982
Entered by dr.unclear
Checksums shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts 2 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
8/17/01
08/16/2001
Source Summary
freshly remastered Betty Board with AUD splices, by Rob Eaton; see info file for extensive notes and credits; etreed by Darrin
Lineage:

Betty Board Portion -- Master 7" Nagra reels 1/2 track @ 7.5ips>Sony PCM 501. Playback on Sony PCM 701>DAT (Digital Transfer) -- Rob Eaton DBX Decoding (Spring '99) Playback on Panasonic 4100 DAT>DB 924 D/A>Dolby 361's w/dbx K9-22 Cards>DB 124 A/D>Neve Capricorn (Digital mixing console)>DB 300S>Panasonic 4100 DAT>DAT>Digi Coax Cable>Tascam CD-RW 700>CDR (x1)>SHN (Rob Eaton remaster)

Audience Portion -- Steve Maizner's Sony ECM-990>Sony TC-152 aud master>First Gen Reel>played directly to hard drive.  The excellent aud splices were normalized and patched using ProTools by Karen Hicks


Disk 1:

Set I

1. Minglewood Blues -> (AUD splice provides beginning of track)
2. Loser
3. El Paso
4. They Love Each Other
5. Jack Straw
6. Deal
7. Lazy Lightning -> Supplication (Aud Splice during transition)
8. Brown Eyed Women
9. Mama Tried

Disk 2:

Set I (continued)

1. Row Jimmy
2. Dancin' In The Streets

Set II

3. Take A Step Back/Tuning
4. Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain

Disk 3:

Set II (continued):

1. Estimated Prophet
2. Tuning/Dead Air
3. Saint Stephen->
4. Not Fade Away->
5. Saint Stephen->
6. Morning Dew
7. Encore: Saturday Night





Culled from a May 6, 1999 post by Rob Eaton to dnc --

I recently re-decoded 5/5/77 and 5/8/77. I went into Right Track Studios in NYC (my home base studio ) set up in studio B (which is the premier state of the art Digital Music Studio in world). I had clean dat copies (provided by Tim Daulton) that were NOT decoded. I set up a chain consisting of: Panasonic Sv4100 AES out-->DB Technologies 924AD (24bit/96k capability)-->Dolby 361 Modules w/DBX K9-22 cards-->Neve Capricorn 32bit point processing/full 24bit Digital Console-->DB Technologies 122s 24bit/16bit conversion and 44.1k/48k sample rate conversion-->Panasonic Sv4100 Dat AES in. This is State of the Art Tchnology, getting as much of the music that was on the tapes as possible. The thing about DBX that nobody else got is that in order to decode it properly the volume into the decoder has to be exact, otherwise the tapes can be to bass heavy or to bright and compressed. These tapes are absoultly the best possible reproductions of the dig tapes made from the masters (I only wish I had the actual reels so I could do a proper azimuth adjustment on them).

Seeded to etree by darrin (dnsacks@usa.net) august 2001
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448a510c4a7255a834b3c9ac57bdd4fb *gd77-05-08eaton-d1t04.shn
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46efce83cbb42363ba3b067380ce58e5 *gd77-05-08eaton-d1t02.shn
49a8814ab1aed4b9a5ac289cb0bf1ab7 *gd77-05-08eaton-d1t05.shn
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328ebc1d5ad669c97691d7632bf807bd *gd77-05-08eaton-d2t02.shn
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4b63adb1c8e8aacf5f71759de7dae148 *gd77-05-08eaton-d3t03.shn
5e5c4cf6989fc71f60da5b7cd451b205 *gd77-05-08eaton-d3t04.shn
6b0643baef12498ae908b84541c783b6 *gd77-05-08eaton-d3t05.shn
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b921edcbd47b43698d892b3d1cfc640b *gd77-05-08eaton-d3t07.shn
3c4b401dd4194402a97feda9003d72a3 *gd77-05-08eaton-d3t01.shn
st5
64cb75903f175e753f69f1927e551f2c [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t01.shn
6fb7d12ead5c01dd984b38a72e19d5b9 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t02.shn
a248fa4d004d207e5f3cb5c0c492ec43 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t03.shn
9df068d2735ce4e4fc641fb3ce9a6753 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t04.shn
06ba8793d5b992e80557259e68135201 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t05.shn
87a2d1a2a569d555d2909e77263ff138 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t06.shn
3665abea648a08aecd60804658d087bb [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t07.shn
e5e81973c8960a7ea5d232ecbe67d8cb [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t08.shn
4d169f731f85589bd62bcaacffd1446e [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d1t09.shn
cc0fd237424452dd3b82311836a5bf00 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d2t01.shn
7a5116e570c9c42f9969142ae645b744 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d2t02.shn
29bed3d3ed0f5af6de24f5bf1b8a644c [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d2t03.shn
da77d2795af344fe47fa52b66efd312b [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d2t04.shn
36dd4c44fdb658a18a8dbf06922436cd [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t01.shn
a9e7de0813d68aa78c75bdb190fb45ab [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t02.shn
ad03206e42d273c45a7bd26bec545725 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t03.shn
76606b960ba15244ff809aef5148e325 [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t04.shn
6ba429eceb3b4e2cde15105e468318df [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t05.shn
71642f4bb313e3db4e208af1e84124eb [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t06.shn
645d47d0914da3ff85f7e0398c473b1a [shntool] gd77-05-08eaton-d3t07.shn

Comments
Other Sources (comments)
w/AUD splices? to patch... (3) Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's... (6) DTS Audio 5.1 : SBD (Betty... (7) Matrix based on these... (0) MAC> R> CD; recorded by... (6) flac16 ; MAC> R> CD... (0) flac16 ; Handheld Shure... (0) Source Info: "3 Source... (0) flac16, DTS ; complete... (0) flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2... (0) flac16 ; Set 1 only ;... (11) flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982)... (0) flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter... (0) flac16 ; source: aud taped... (0) flac24 ; source: aud taped... (0) flac24 ; source: aud... (0) flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0) flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0) flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0) flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0) flac24 ; Source: Betty... (0) flac2448; Source: Mono... (0)
Date User Comment
08/23/2001 pete Can anyone tell me if this SHN is superior to the version found on gdlive.com? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
08/24/2001 darrin Pete, I think that the sbd portion sounds slightly better than that on the gdlive version (it's crisper and fuller imho) and that the aud splices are head and shoulders above those on the gdlive version. Download a track or 3 from each, compare 'em, and decide for yourself.

Oh, and let us know what you think.
08/31/2001 pete Thanks for the info, Darrin. After downloading a couple of tracks from both, i think that this newly remastered Betty Board does sound slightly better than the version at gdlive.com. The audience sectios were really cleaned up with this version.
10/09/2001 Dave A. Heal Why weren't Scarlet Begonias and Fire on the Mountain kept on separate tracks as in previous versions? Has anybody separated these and re-seeded? Regardless, this seed is a definite improvement and worth upgrading to.
11/03/2001 Andy Sounds better than any other versions I've heard, but there seems to be a digi-snit @ 10:36 in Scarlet. Anyone else noticed this? My MD5's check out fine.
11/05/2001 DiPalma81 Yeah...this show is very crispy. Mine has that little skip during Scarlet Begonias also, same spot, and my MD5s checked out also.
01/17/2002 Jon Meltzer Very nice and clear - much better sound quality than what anyone actually in Barton Hall that night (like me) heard :-). Great job, Rob!
02/14/2002 phishjones This show sounds great! Hats off to the mixer!
08/15/2002 Diana Hamilton Incipient argument not directly related to this shn set has now been removed. More general discussions are welcome on the general messageboard here.
09/16/2002 Dan Stephens My Eaton 5-8-77 DAT does not have the skip in Scarlet. It is completely clean. I don't have time to do the splices as was done with this seed, but if someone wants to, I can send transferred SHN's.
09/21/2002 darrin Dan uploaded a copy of his version to me and it unfortunately contains exactly the same bit of diginoise as the seed (this is not a "skip" but a bit of digital "fuzz").

Specifically, the diginoise is on d2t4 from 10:36.418 through 10:36.448 -- I'm going to try and patch this from the non-eaton bbd.
01/31/2003 scottz any word on whether a patch was made on this scarlet? c'mon, I mean we all have all the time in the world to fix a split second dropout right? :)
05/16/2003 dms Just to clear this up... My DAT copy of this contians the same spot of diginoise as Darrin's. Both Darrin and I concluded that this spot of noise is present on all circulating copies. Therefore we very well may not be able to get rid of this flaw unless Rob Eaton re-seeds.
08/07/2003 Sean Cribbs This file set seems to contain the same flaws during Loser (d1t02) that are noted for the previous file set (http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=266), however they appear about 3 seconds earlier, consisting of two small pops at 2:39 and 2:46. An additional pop occurs at 8:24 of Loser.
01/13/2005 barton hall dancin' in the streets from this show is included as a bonus track on the reissue of terrapin station. the first track from this show to make it to official release i believe.
06/28/2006 Bob http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=26633
this has recieved an EAC>FLAC and being torrented under the same ID it is not this id.
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