Grateful Dead 05/08/77 <b>flac16</b>; <b>Set 1 only</b>; partial SBD (1st part of Set 1 Only) Lineage unknown, possibly RR > CD (unknown transfer) > EAC > SHN Originally posted as shn files to abgd-hs by ArtCube 2007-09-26 (The patch in Minglewood is from material performed on 5-7 and Lazy Lightning from 5-25.) Converted to flac by terrapinstation

Grateful Dead 05/08/77
Barton Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY

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Source #	87486
Entered by	Matt Vernon
Checksums	flac-md5 , ffp , orig-shn
Disc Counts	1 / 1
Media Size
Date Circulated Date Added	09/29/2007 09/29/2007

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flac16; Set 1 only; partial SBD (1st part of Set 1 Only) Lineage unknown, possibly RR > CD (unknown transfer) > EAC > SHN Originally posted as shn files to abgd-hs by ArtCube 2007-09-26 (The patch in Minglewood is from material performed on 5-7 and Lazy Lightning from 5-25.) Converted to flac by terrapinstation

            The Grateful Dead

Barton Hall

Cornell University

Ithaca, NY

May 08, 1977

partial SBD (1st part of Set 1 Only)

Lineage unknown, possibly RR > CD (unknown transfer) > EAC > SHN (see notes below) Patched with material from 5-7-77 and 5-25-77.

Originally posted as shn files to abgd-hs by ArtCube 2007-09-26

Converted to flac by terrapinstation 2007-09-29

01. New Minglewood Blues

02. Loser

03. El Paso

04. They Love Each Other

05. Jack Straw

06. Deal

07. Lazy Lightning > 

08. Supplication

09. Brown Eyed Woman

10. Mama Tried

Art Cube's notes:

This is set 1 upto Mama Tried w/o any splices.  It's a very clean sbd. 

Pretty certain from reels to cd then eac'd.  I got it as an audio disk in 

the mail.

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flac-md5

a0fea7a1602aa5fcddd2f5fefd342079 *gd77-05-08Set1t01.flac

4c68734f0880d138360cf1cabab179b9 *gd77-05-08Set1t02.flac

c9cf3017748a260ac3b82a54adc9389a *gd77-05-08Set1t03.flac

67389493459642751645263b2093c671 *gd77-05-08Set1t04.flac

87f28ca7188d1e7b1eeaf70f5e27ce0a *gd77-05-08Set1t05.flac

95be9d84409ceaac6eb6e92d3d8dbaf7 *gd77-05-08Set1t06.flac

17c860cb5f86279f4e2533576a76ef39 *gd77-05-08Set1t07.flac

f76d721eabc5fdc2dde39a527d3418db *gd77-05-08Set1t08.flac

fc2087b0cb6701e3b5aadaf6a2c31857 *gd77-05-08Set1t09.flac

ecf17642257dfc62b1f29bcd707a5891 *gd77-05-08Set1t10.flac

ffp

gd77-05-08Set1t01.flac:0ab463129a69dafa904d283a6dfd5daa

gd77-05-08Set1t02.flac:7492009f3437a8ca98fa7d151973efaf

gd77-05-08Set1t03.flac:5908f9cedecea0bc07ac551474443eef

gd77-05-08Set1t04.flac:442e404042c1021a8ad5f69f358f5ba9

gd77-05-08Set1t05.flac:3d9f3b34bf8ec4dd55790d0982623c16

gd77-05-08Set1t06.flac:ecd34bb91ded7ddde27f0cbe2ef9e28e

gd77-05-08Set1t07.flac:30c41dfb6b7f6687458fd036affa53e6

gd77-05-08Set1t08.flac:42d4ae70e8f89ae829f79dc0f3917352

gd77-05-08Set1t09.flac:c697a5da2bc3b403bbdd6250963c9b04

gd77-05-08Set1t10.flac:5a9258f8f5bf159ad93c1c9ea61118fe

orig-shn

595dc0dc5ecb58238af78e842e01b7eb *gd77-05-08Set1t10.shn

6edbe4ee4669c0fafb2b47738e18cffd *gd77-05-08Set1t01.shn

e6af0a67fc9035dc0ac65176da850bb0 *gd77-05-08Set1t02.shn

2fb2fd672fa6aabc30924b16f4420c91 *gd77-05-08Set1t03.shn

1f4f19aa0f53b1c259a64f07e9aa5a64 *gd77-05-08Set1t04.shn

dc4327ae1871b43c9d48ccd03c7555c9 *gd77-05-08Set1t05.shn

d5428ccdd0519f0a6757e8311ba0a843 *gd77-05-08Set1t06.shn

0c0c8747ac860717de81a6570d455866 *gd77-05-08Set1t07.shn

90ddb787c790300111f0c568b7de09fe *gd77-05-08Set1t08.shn

315db6c7fb0b761754728a513acad744 *gd77-05-08Set1t09.shn

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Other Sources (comments) w/AUD splices? to patch... (3) freshly remastered Betty... (16) Lineage: -- Steve Maizner's... (6) DTS Audio 5.1 : SBD (Betty... (7) Matrix based on these... (0) MAC> R> CD; recorded by... (6) flac16 ; MAC> R> CD... (0) flac16 ; Handheld Shure... (0) Source Info: "3 Source... (0) flac16, DTS ; complete... (0) flac24/96 ; SBD+AUD1+AUD2... (0) flac16 ; SBD (shnid=4982)... (0) flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter... (0) flac16 ; source: aud taped... (0) flac24 ; source: aud taped... (0) flac24 ; source: aud... (0) flac24 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0) flac16 ; 3 Source Matrix... (0) flac24 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0) flac16 ; 2 Source Matrix... (0) flac24 ; Source: Betty... (0) flac2448; Source: Mono... (0)
09/30/2007	SteveSw	I am disappointed that this was given a SHNID. It seems clearly inferior to existing sources, both in terms of sound and in terms of inaccuracies in lineage.
09/30/2007	jjoops	shnids are for sources in circulation, not for good (or better) sources in circulation -- all of them.
09/30/2007	Wharfrat73	Thank you jjoops.
09/30/2007	SteveSw	George Shannon has said he made this version: "Just for the record, the first few seconds of Minglewood are from 5-7-77 and the beginning of Lazy Lightning is from 5-25-77. Also for the record I still believe this sounds better than the audience patched version albeit not as historically accurate for obvious reasons. I purposefully left the splices barely audible so one could tell they were there but without jumping out and grabbing one's attention like the audience patched versions do." I guess, to me, there is a chicken and an egg issue here. If this didn't have a SHNID, it wouldn't have gone into circulation. But you guys know FAR better than I....
09/30/2007	jjoops	It was given a shnid after it entered into circulation, I believe. But I am not a GD admin, so I am not sure.
10/01/2007	SteveSw	George Shannon sent it to some friends as an audio CD five years ago. It was only torrented for the first time (at eTree and elsewhere) after it got a SHNID. It seems like a person could make A LOT of new sources like this, which is where I was coming from. But now I'm mostly just curious to try to understand the thinking.
10/01/2007	Grateful Darkstar	It was uploaded to abgd-hs, it wasn't given a SHNID until after that had occured.
10/01/2007	Wharfrat73	As far as the time line goes here's what happened. It was upped to abgd. Someone grabbed it from there, convereted it to flac and seeded it on JP's. Once that occurred, it was given a shn ID. I edited the source entry to add the original shn checksums. I then edited the source entry again to note that this was actually a composite from different shows. Hopefully, that will prevent further circulation.
10/01/2007	Flyerfanatic	SteveSw it is better that it has a SHNID now. A few years from now a person will upload it again and we might not have the information then.
12/04/2007	Asa74	How about updating the txt info on this entry to note that this is not an authentic entry? Put it in the txt info that the it takes material from other shows, as the current reading of the txt is straight up dishonest: "This is set 1 upto Mama Tried w/o any splices. It's a very clean sbd. Pretty certain from reels to cd then eac'd." That is a complete lie. Why enter fakes into the database only to give them some amount of authenticity? Talk about pissing in the pool.
12/05/2007	jjoops-garcia	Hmmm ... maybe because it's a "source in circulation"?