Grateful Dead 04/17/72 SBD>??>French TV Broadcast>C>DAT>CDR; Several missing tracks, see info file for details; via Raoul Duke; Seeded to etree by Matt Vernon

Grateful Dead 04/17/72
Tivoli Concert Hall, Copenhagen, Denmark

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Source #	9390
Entered by	dr.unclear
Checksums	shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts	2 / 2
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Date Circulated Date Added	05/15/02 05/15/2002

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SBD>??>French TV Broadcast>C>DAT>CDR; Several missing tracks, see info file for details; via Raoul Duke; Seeded to etree by Matt Vernon

            BAND	Grateful Dead

VENUE	Tivolis Koncertsal

CITY	Copenhagen

STATE	Denmark

DATE	04/17/72

Source: SBD>??>French TV Broadcast>C>DAT>CDR

Conversion: CDR > EAC(secure) > Cool Edit(see notes) > CDWav(retracking) > mkwact(seekable) mvernon54@attbi.com

shntool confirms tracks on sector boundaries

Part of The Music Never Stopped Project 2002 shn em up initiative

Thanks to Raoul Duke for the disks!

Disk 1

SET1	

01. Introduction (in French)

[Missing] Cold Rain And Snow ; 

02. Me And Bobby McGee ; 

03. Chinatown Shuffle ; 

04. Sugaree ; 

[Missing] Black Throated Wind ; 

[Missing] Mr. Charlie ; 

05. China Cat Sunflower > 

06. I Know You Rider ; 

07. Jack Straw ; 

08. He's Gone ; (*) 

09. Next Time You See Me ; 

10. Playing In The Band ;

[Missing] Casey Jones

Disk 2

SET2	

01. My monitor's not working

02. One More Saturday Night ; 

03. It Hurts Me Too ; 

04. Ramble On Rose ; 4:46 pdo

05. El Paso ; 

06. Big Railroad Blues ; 

07. Truckin' ; 

[Missing] Dark Star ; 

[Missing] Sugar Magnolia ; 

[Missing] Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) ; 

[Missing] Johnny B. Goode

(*) First time played

d2t3 ~1:47 partial drop out hurts me 2

Notes

1. Cool Edit used to repair some partial drop outs isolated to one channel and remove a repeating section at the start of Truckin 

2. Some songs from this night are available on video - It Hurts Me Too, El Paso, Big Railroad Blues, Ramble On Rose, Truckin', Bobby McGee, Chinatown Shuffle, China/Rider, Jack Straw, Next Time You See Me, He's Gone, One More Saturday Night. Truckin' has appeared on the commerical video releases "Casey Kasem's Goldmine" and "Anthem To Beauty".

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Other Sources (comments) flac16 ; SBD>16 track 2"... (3) flac16 ; SBD > MR... (3) flac16 ; sbd > 16 track 2"... (2) flac16 ; source: sbd > 16... (1) flac16/48kHz ; Source: sbd... (0)
02/04/2004	RD	This show was broadcast on TV ("TV From Tivoli", according to Dead Base in 3 pieces). DB makes no notes of missing material, nor does it state outright that all songs were necessarily broadcast. Deadlists states that Video circulates namely "Casey Kasem's Goldmine" and "Anthem To Beauty". DL makes no mention of the Dark Star being in circulation (through those sources). DL also offers no timings for any material from this show. Indeed DL was last updated for 1972 in Jan. or 2000, so maybe an update their could provide more detailed info. It appears that the video sources may all be a bit here and there. Maybe someone should pry loose the vault SBD and reseed this badboy. Till then, be glad someone seeded this at all.
02/07/2004	Alan (Slydell)	request this show as a dicks picks if you'd like to see those songs come into circulation -- http://www.dead.net Other than that, there is not much else that can be done unless someone seeds those songs.
02/08/2004		Perhaps there are reels of film still sitting in the archives of Danish television including those missing tunes? Who knows how much of this was actually filmed, the entire show or just the circulating footage?
02/08/2004	Alex	I?m pretty close to Denmark so i?d gladly pay a visit to Danish Television and investigate further! Seriously though, since this was broadcasted by French TV, does anyone know if it was also filmed by French TV or if it was a project by the Danish TV which was later distributed to and broadcasted in France?
02/08/2004	Martin M. Pedersen	It was filmed by Danish TV (DR). I will soon go to the library and find some newspapers articles which mentions this concert.
02/11/2004	Lewis/Klitschko	http://groups.msn.com/GDLive/general.msnw?action=get_message&mview=0&ID_Message=65451&LastModified=4675452366823700548
02/11/2004	Lewis/Klitschko	"RE 4/17/72 and others. As many know much of my collection came directly via Latvala over the course of many years. He and I were close friends. He sent me many of the europe 72 tour including the 4/17/72 show you speak of. Most of those were Jeff Norman rough mixes from the multi track tapes. When they were trying to find material for the Hundred Year Hall release they mixed down at least a dozen of them so Phil and Cutler could listen and chose the show. I've been asked many times from ALL involved in GD Productions not to release the multitrack stuff I have. If you remember a few years back when the multi track from 8/27/72 came out, I let that out and cought lots of flack from the office and Jeff for that and rightly so. I have since promised not to do it again. The GD want to insure that they have control over the things that are not in heavy circulation and I'm respecting their request. I know this bothers many but I will keep my word to them. Hopefully the complete 4/17/72 will see the light of day as an offical release. Peace" - Eaton
02/12/2004	Jim	What is the purpose posting Eaton?s message? This show has been circulating for several years and until it is officially released (if ever) by GDM it is fully acceptable according to their policy (which was recently commented on as well) to keep circulating it. Would you care to explain further what you want to say by posting this?
02/12/2004	darrin	I think the point is that the circulating source is missing the following songs: [Missing] Cold Rain And Snow, [Missing] Black Throated Wind, [Missing] Mr. Charlie, [Missing] Casey Jones, [Missing] Dark Star, [Missing] Sugar Magnolia, [Missing] Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks), and[ Missing] Johnny B. Goode, and that although Rob Eaton has the complete show via his tradings with Dick Latvala, he's promised GDP that he won't release 'em. Thus, these missing tracks will probably not appear 'till if/when this is released by GDP.
11/15/2004	Claus	Just a few observations. This second Copenhagen 1972 show was filmed by the Danish Radio and not French TV. According to my list of Danish Radio progressive music programs, www.geocities.com/alrunen, there was three GD TV broadcasts in 1972. It has never since been rebroadcasted in Denmark. The first show was broadcasted live (30 minutes) and then two later broadcasts during august 1972 (45 min and 35 min). The dates are as follows: April 17.: The Grateful Dead - Live (Color) Playin? In The Band Sugaree One More Saturday Night - The rest (?) of the titles unknown. I have 22 minutes audio from this broadcast, with the above titles. - Produktion: Edmondt Jensen og Per M?ller Hansen - Produktions nummer: 50004-6-1 August 12.: Giv tid, venner giv tid ! (Color, 45 min) "Give time, Friends, Give time" - Produktion: Edmondt Jensen - Produktions nummer: 50005-4-1 August 25.: Koncerten forts?tter... (Color, 35 min) "The concert continues" It Hurts Me Too Ramble On Rose El Paso Big Railroad Blues Truckin' - I believe the titles are from this show. This is to my knowledge the only of the three shows circulating on VHS as bootlegs from the danish archives. I assume that later French TV borrowed both of the two august broadcasts. - Produktion: Edmondt Jensen - Produktions nummer: 50316-9-1 In recent years the radiohouse has opened their archieves for projects like the Led Zeppeling DVD, Doors Soundstage DVD, and the recent American Folk and Blues Festival Vol. 3 DVD. I would assume that any serious approach about a GD DVD release would be taken serious, but I doubt very much that they kept anything else than what was originally broadcasted. I have included the original production numbers for the broadcasts. Cheers, C
11/16/2004	lew	David Lemieux has said that the footage is present in the Vault so perhaps some day we will get the official release.
04/11/2006	SIRMick	A 16 track sbd has just surfaced, and it is complete!
12/14/2009	charliemiller	This is the correct setlist (from the vault multitrack master reel boxes): Set One: Cold Rain And Snow, Me And Bobby McGee, Chinatown Shuffle, China Cat Sunflower -> I Know You Rider, Jack Straw, He's Gone, Next Time You See Me, Black Throated Wind, Set Two: Casey Jones, Playing In The Band, Sugaree, It Hurts Me Too, Ramble On Rose, El Paso, Big Railroad Blues, Truckin' Set Three: Dark Star -> Sugar Magnolia -> Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks), Johnny B. Goode Encore: One More Saturday Night