Grateful Dead 07/31/83 <b>flac16</b>; SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cass -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Samplitude Professional v9.11 -> FLAC -> Audio CDs Burned as one track -> Windows Media Player -> SB Audigy 4 - > Sound Forge 5.0 -> removed dead space between tracks caused by WMP playback -> CDWave Editor 1.94.8 -> Wavs -> Flac 1.2b level 6; audio extraction and re-flac by Charles Bandrofcheck

Grateful Dead 07/31/83
Ventura County Fairgrounds, Ventura, CA

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Source #	98125
Entered by	Matt Vernon
Checksums	flac-md5 , ffp
Disc Counts	2 / 3
Media Size
Date Circulated Date Added	03/25/2009 03/25/2009

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Source Summary
flac16; SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cass -> Dat -> CD Transfer Info: CD -> Samplitude Professional v9.11 -> FLAC -> Audio CDs Burned as one track -> Windows Media Player -> SB Audigy 4 - > Sound Forge 5.0 -> removed dead space between tracks caused by WMP playback -> CDWave Editor 1.94.8 -> Wavs -> Flac 1.2b level 6; audio extraction and re-flac by Charles Bandrofcheck

            Grateful Dead - July 31, 1983

County Fairgrounds - Ventura, CA

Recording Info:

SBD -> Cassette Master -> Cass -> Dat -> CD

Transfer Info:

CD -> Samplitude Professional v9.11 -> FLAC

(3 Discs Audio / 2 Discs FLAC)

All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller

charliemiller87@earthlink.net

October 31, 2007

Patch Info:

(FOB) Sony ECM200T -> Cassette Master -> Dat -> CD supplies:

Fire On The Mountain (0:29 - 0:50)

Drums (6:19 - 6:26)

Throwing Stones (0:01 - 0:17)

Touch Of Grey (last 4 seconds)

One More Saturday Night (complete song)

Notes:

-- Set 2 is seamless

-- Can not confirm SBD lineage 100% accurate

-- Sound changes after each tape flip

-- Bass boosted on patch source

-- Source discs were havily EQ'd, I tried to fix it

I received 3 CDs which were definitely SBDs and the number of tracks shown by

Windows Media Player matched the number of tracks listed above as did all

Patch Info.

Additional Processing

shnid=88149 CDs Burned as one track -> Windows Media Player -> SB Audigy 4 - > Sound Forge 5.0 -> removed dead space between tracks caused by WMP playback -> CDWave Editor 1.94.8 -> Wavs -> Flac 1.2b level 6.

Charles Bandrofcheck - 2/26/09

Set 1:

d1t01 - Tuning

d1t02 - Jack Straw

d1t03 - Friend Of The Devil

d1t04 - Me And My Uncle ->

d1t05 - Mexicali Blues

d1t06 - West L.A. Fadeaway

d1t07 - Little Red Rooster

d1t08 - Tennessee Jed

d1t09 - Looks Like Rain ->

d1t10 - Deal

Set 2:

d2t01 - Hell In A Bucket ->

d2t02 - Scarlet Begonias ->

d2t03 - Fire On The Mountain ->

d2t04 - Drums ->

d3t01 - Space ->

d3t02 - The Other One ->

d3t03 - Wharf Rat ->

d3t04 - Throwing Stones ->

d3t05 - Not Fade Away

Encore:

d3t06 - Touch Of Grey ->

d3t07 - One More Saturday Night

Show Checksums

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03/25/2009	ekoostikal	What is the significance of this torrent relative to shnid: 88149. This one looks to have an extra EAC gen. If I am reading the lineage correctly it also appears to have been extracted using Windows Media or possibly played through windows media player into Audigy.... Not sure I understand the reasons for a seed of this source since the CM fileset already exists prior to this source.
03/26/2009	SteveSw	This is much worse than an extra EAC gen. If you look closely at the lineage (which is stated rather plainly), Charles received CDs from a friend. He played them in Windows Media Player, and captured the resulting music with SB Audigy. Because he had configured Windows Media Player to insert gaps between the tracks, he used Sound Forge to remove those gaps. Then he used CD Wave Editor to retrack the source. Then he used flac to compress the wav's. And then, to save himself some postage, rather than just mailing the files back to his friend, he decided to create a new SHNID for this and use bt.eTree to transport the music home. The Windows Media Player > Audigy step is lossy. So, this is much worse than an extra EAC, this is a lossy copy of a CM SBD.
03/26/2009	other3	Everyone know the addage about opinions. The folks who downloaded this are happy. If you are not, that is your problem. I believe that any coversion from analog to digital is lossy. You can always take one more sample. LPs are making a come back.
03/26/2009	charlie miller	I look at the 'new' lineage and all I can say is WTF????
03/26/2009	SteveSw	it's true, other3. analog > digital and digital > analog conversions are always lossy. that's why all listeners will prefer 88149 (which has analog > digital) to this source (which has analog > digital > analog > digital). I assume the folks who are downloading this fall into three camps: your friend, naive people who don't realize they're downloading an inferior source, and SHNID collectors who will download anything with a SHNID. certainly this source will amuse the SHNID collectors.
03/27/2009	driftin_n_dreamin	I guess someone wants their name in the database ... Who cares if it's pollution they're putting out to do it ...
03/29/2009	mgoldey	The torrent has been banned from bt.etree.org. Charles B. and I have had conversations about this sort of thing before and, unfortunately, the "don't seed this stuff to bt.etree" message seems to have been forgotten.