| Show detail for Grateful Dead - 11/20/78 | |
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| Show Date | 11/20/78 |
| Venue | Cleveland Music Hall |
| City | Cleveland |
| State | OH |
| Set 1 | Mississippi Half Step Uptown Toodleloo > Franklin's Tower Mama Tried > Mexicali Blues It Must Have Been The Roses Looks Like Rain Stagger Lee Passenger Peggy-O Lazy Lightning > Supplication |
| set2 | Jam > Drums > Jam > Jack-A-Roe Playing In The Band > Shakedown Street > If I Had The World To Give > Playing In The Band > Around & Around |
| set3 | |
| Comment | Jerry Garcia - Guitar Bob Weir - Guitar Keith Godchaux - Keyboards Phil Lesh - Bass Bill Kreutzmann - Drums Mickey Hart - Drums Donna Jean Godchaux - Vocals |
| Show Added By: | J |
| Last Update | 2018-12-09 11:28:43 |
| Date Entered | 2002-03-01 08:46:24 |
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| 11/20/78 - flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |||||
| User | Media Type | Media Count | User Source Info | Notes | |
| adam | cd | 3 | |||
| Albix | flac | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix Sick Bits Vol. 16a | Matrixed by Chris Chappell 2/9/06 Data DVD 2006-023 | |
| Andrew Long | flac | 1 | Matrix (Chappell) | 406MB; SetII only; Sick Bits Vol.16a | |
| AoXoMoXoA | SHN | 2 | SBD/AUD mix | ||
| AoXoMoXoA | SHN | 2 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | ||
| Asa | CD-R | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | sick bits vol 16; set II only | |
| Beka | CDR | 1 | Sick Bits 16A (Set 2) SHNID: 32489 | ||
| bill | dd06-00011 | ||||
| blackcrowes92 | FLAC | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a | ||
| Bob Abrams | |||||
| Bob Witcher | flac | 1 | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Sick Bits 16a disc 113 | |
| Brad | |||||
| Brad | FLAC | Set II: SBD + AUD Matrix - Sick Bits Vol. 16a | Set II Only. | ||
| brett garvey | FLAC | 1 | matrix: SBD/AUD | gd1978 21 of 26 | |
| Brian | CD | 1 | Sick Bits Matrix Vol. 16a | ||
| Brian Colligan | flac | 1 | Matrix (Sick Bits Vol. 16a) | ||
| Built2Last | 1 | ||||
| captain_trip_420 | 1 | Matrix - Sick Bits Vol. 16a | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - Matrix | ||
| CARL | set 2 only/sick bits 16a | ||||
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| cbass | |||||
| chad | flac | 1 | |||
| Chad Hensley | |||||
| Charles Bandrofcheck | FLAC | 1 | Matrix:SBD: (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN. AUD: (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN | See my other show notes for info on trading for this show. | |
| Charlie Yohe | CDR | 1 | |||
| chipster61 | Sick Bits v. 16a | ||||
| Chris Davis | cdr | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Sick Bits Vol. 16a | |
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| Crow Black Chicken | Shn | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |||
| cutter317 | CDR | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a (set II only) | ||
| dann | flac | 406 mb | |||
| Dave Heenan | FLAC | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | Set 2 only | |
| daze7 | |||||
| denance | |||||
| dogsinapile | CDR | 1 | 32489 | ||
| easywind74 | |||||
| EddieTandy | CDR | 1 | |||
| Eric | |||||
| Eric Richbourg | flac | 1 | |||
| Everett | flac/dvd | 1 | sbd/matrix | located on 4-16-78- | |
| Frankie Four Fingers | FLAC16>WAV | 1 | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |
| garret | Flac | 10 | SBD (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN via Art Cohen? / AUD (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN (thought to be Nak 300s) A/D by Dr. Rob Bertrando and encoded by Darrin Sacks | AUD - taper unknown, although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) General Notes: When the LlaMA had to pull the SBDs, one source I never got was the updated multiple SBD source (shnid=21727) that included the first set. Also mentioned is the Scott Jones AUD which runs through Jack-a-roe but is not listed in the db, and I have not seen either source circulate as of late (hint hint). If both sources surface I can then put together the first set as well, so for now this fileset is Sick Bits Vol. 16a and the first set would be Vol. 16b (I'm naming this fileset "a" hoping that there will be a "b"). This SBD is not that bad (fast though), but Jerry's tone gets very big when coupled with the added dimension of the AUD, which, all in all, is fairly decent for the time period. The SBD has some holes and finally cuts for good before the Playin' Reprise. The first set is about 76 mins. in length whereas this second set is about 65 mins. without an encore. One of the strangest second sets in terms of format, song selection, and plain old jamming - they essentially start with Space and play two distinctive jams (the second with Jerry using the Mutron) sandwiched around Drumz before finally settling into Jack A Roe, a 17 month rezi, 8th time played, only version of 1978, and only version which involves a segue. After they stop playing after the Jack A Roe (the only break in the set), Weir can clearly be heard on the SBD laying out the sequence: Playin > Shakedown > World To Give > Playin (it's unclear if he mentions Round & Round) - so this is very much planned, most likely because this is only the 5th Shakedown (no reprise) and the third and final If I Had The World To Give. Also, according to those that were there, Weir was ill for the early part of this set, so they opened with "jam". Thanks to whomever recorded the AUD, to Rob Bertrando for converting it to digital, and Darrin Sacks for encoding and seeding it. Since the SBD source is a mystery, thanks to all of you who had a hand in the lineage. Enjoy! Chappy ___________________________________________________________ LlaMA reviews: "The Grateful Dead - yep....that's right.... enough said..." "Take a careful look at that second-set list. Bobby got sick -- was missing at the start of the set (hence the start with a jam) appeared briefly to start Playing in the Band, vanished for the rest of the show, and then reappeared to finish the show. We pestered Healy the next night in Rochester: 'What happened last night?' 'Aw...Bobby was sick as a dawg, throwing up in the dressing room...'" "The whole [second] set just scorches. Has a very nice jazzy feel and a rare (and in my opinion, the best version of) "World to Give". Get this show!" "...favorite of mine since it was my first show..the beginning of the second set with jam-drums-jam is without weir. what the problem was i don't know but he doesn't join in until jackaroe. this venue was an excellent place to see them because it was on the lake downtown and small with great acoustics." "without a doubt the funkiest shakedown i have ever heard. very good sandwiched between playin & world to give. get it for the unusual 2nd set. the shakedown is for the ages. so funky it hurts." ___________________________________________________________ Editing Notes: - Pitch Both sources were not very close in pitch. The SBD had to be pitched down between 28 and 30 cents, while the AUD had to be pitched down only 1 to 2 cents until midway through Shakedwown where there is a tape flip and the rest of the set needed to be pitched down 17 cents. - Synch Because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits were performed to keep the sources synched. Because the SBD was my master pitch and time ref, the AUD was synched to the SBD (too many edits to list). - Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio No EQ was applied to either of the two sources. I applied very sparingly Waves L2 (limiter) to the master 2 buss to keep things contained, the levels rarely hitting zero, thus the limiting is quite scarce. All I was trying to do here is to add some dimension to the SBD by using the ambience of the AUD. The result is a lively but clear recording, hopefully close to how it sounded at the show. If I had to guess the SBD/AUD ratio would be somewhere between 3:1 and 2:1. - Edits The following are places where the SBD and AUD had splices, holes or incomplete coverage in reference to the final matrix timeline. SBD: s2t01 (0:00 - 2:20) - missing s2t01 (4:04 - 4:07) - missing s2t01>3 (9:41 - 0:13) - missing s2t04 (4:28 - 4:43) - missing (crowd) s2t08>10 (1:54 - 8:48) - missing AUD: s2t05 (0:00 - 0:05) - missing (crowd) s2t06 (7:08 - 7:14) - missing (tape flip) Full coverage is achieved (for this portion of the show) although it's AUD only for basically the last 3 tracks. SBD Source Notes: GRATEFUL DEAD Cleveland Music Hall Cleveland, OH 11-20-78 Set 2 Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN Audience patches abound 1. ja//m -> 9:48 2. drums -> 2:55 3. //jam-> 3:19 4. Jack A Roe 4:31 5. Playing in the Band -> 9:21 6. Shakedown Street -> 11:46 7. If I Had the World to Give -> 7:11 8. j//am -> 3:51 9. Playing in the Band -> 2:29 10. Around & Around 8:43 Total Time: 63:54 Caveat Emptor: This is an _AUDIENCE_ recording. Its precise source is unknown (but thought to be Nak 300s), its lineage is MAC>Reel>Reel(>Possible 3rd Reel Generation>) DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN. However, this is the best known COMPLETE source for this very interesting set. Thanks to Dr. Rob Bertrando for bringing this set into the digital realm. A sbd recording of this set does circulate, but is a bit hissy and, more importantly, is incomplete. Although you'll hear people looking for their seats and coats and might think the taper was surrounded by a bunch of folks on a field trip from the tuberculosis ward (;-)), this recording IS quite listenable and highlights a 1978 highpoint. Darrin (dnsacks@usa.net) | |
| Gary | CDR | 1 | Sick Bits 16a Set 2 | ||
| Gary Field | FLAC | 1 | Matrix | matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources: SHN ID 12947 (Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN) and SHN ID 302 (AUD, precise source is unknown (but thought to be Nak 300s), lineage MAC> Reel> Reel (>Possible 3rd Reel Generation>) DATs> CDRs> EAC> SHN) [060223.2] | |
| Gene Walters | FLAC | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix - SET II Only | Sources: SBD: (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN via Art Cohen? AUD: (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN (thought to be Nak 300s) A/D by Dr. Rob Bertrando and encoded by Darrin Sacks - taper unknown, although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) Matrixed by Chris Chappell ScarFireATliquidcityDOTcom 2/9/06 | |
| Holden Caulfield | flac | 1 | |||
| J | |||||
| Jason | 1 | ||||
| Jason Westerfeld | flac | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | ||
| Jeff Mitchell | |||||
| JerryG4Ever | 32489 | ||||
| jerrytheband | CDR/2 | 2 | Both sets | ||
| jgglass | 1 | ||||
| Jim | cdr | 1 | Sick Bits 16a | ||
| jim newcomb | |||||
| John Peters | FLAC | 1 | SBD/AUD mix | Sick Bits Vol. 16a | |
| Jon Pavuk | FLAC | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | SBD: (shnid=12947) Master SBD Cassette > Cassette > DAT > CD-R > EAC > SHN via Art Cohen? AUD: (shnid=302) MAC>Reel>Reel>?>DATs>CDRs>EAC>SHN (thought to be Nak 300s) A/D by Dr. Rob Bertrando and encoded by Darrin Sacks - taper unknown, although Jack Warner confirms that it is not recorded by Hugh Barroll Transfer/Editing: Both sources were shn files downloaded from LMA and converted to WAV > Vegas 5 (matrix) > WAV > CD Wave > FLAC 16 (level 8) | |
| Jonathan | 1 | Fileset in Archive. | |||
| Kevin Hickey | flac | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix Sick Bits Vol. 16a (Set II only) | Matrixed by Chris Chappell ScarFireATliquidcityDOTcom 2/9/06 | |
| Kima | flac | 1 | |||
| Kyle Gilbert | flac | 1 | SBD/AUD mix | ||
| LossLess Legs | CDR | 1 | SBD/AUD mix | 07/10/2006 - jbyrd | |
| luke | |||||
| Luke Bailey | FLAC | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302) | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302) | |
| Mac | SHN | 3 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |
| Manfred Jungeblut | |||||
| Marc Deardorff | shn | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources | ||
| Marc Dreilinger | FLAC | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Archived Box 2 Disc 127 | |
| Marc Dreilinger | FLAC | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Archived Box 2 Disc 194 | |
| Maria Reine | CD-R | 1 | "Sick Bits Vol. 16a" [shn id = 32489] FLAC[sg250f] | ||
| Mark Gay | FLAC | 2 | 32489 | ||
| Marty | CDR | 1 | flac | ||
| Matt | Shn | SBD | Archive 131, 78-11-20II.mtx.chappell.32489.sbeok.flac | ||
| Matt Lewis | .flac | ||||
| Matt Stevenson | |||||
| Matt Vernon | SHN | 1 | matrix [2006-11-21]This is a must hear as noted by Chris Chappell in the info file which I quote "The first set is about 76 mins. in length whereas this second set is about 65 mins. without an encore. One of the strangest second sets in terms of format, song selection, and plain old jamming - they essentially start with Space and play two distinctive jams (the second with Jerry using the Mutron) sandwiched around Drumz before finally settling into Jack A Roe, a 17 month rezi, 8th time played, only version of 1978, and only version which involves a segue. After they stop playing after the Jack A Roe (the only break in the set), Weir can clearly be heard on the SBD laying out the sequence: Playin > Shakedown > World To Give > Playin (it's unclear if he mentions Round & Round) - so this is very much planned, most likely because this is only the 5th Shakedown (no reprise) and the third and final If I Had The World To Give. Also, according to those that were there, Weir was ill for the early part of this set, so they opened with "jam". | ||
| mcjeff | flac | 1 | matrix | Sick Bits Vol. 16a 2nd set only | |
| MeltN2aDream | cdr | 1 | MAtrix | set 1 Sick bits 16a | |
| michael | |||||
| Michael Hughey | flac | 1 | set 2 | ||
| Michael Mersand | |||||
| Mike | FLAC | 1 | |||
| mike | Flac | 1 | |||
| Mike | CDR | 1 | |||
| Mike Pageau | MTX 15 | 1 | |||
| mike west | FLAC | 1 | SBD/AUD Matrix, Sick Bits #16A | ||
| Mike Williams | |||||
| My Home | Flac 16 Mtx | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |||
| Patrick | |||||
| PrideofCucamonga | FLAC | 1 | |||
| Ptchfork | CDR | 1 | |||
| quimbo | FLAC | ||||
| RamblinBear | DVD | 1 | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | .32489. | |
| ramsay | |||||
| Randy | SHN | 1 | |||
| ratskrad | |||||
| Reverend Alex Lagusis | 3 | ||||
| Rhodes | |||||
| Rhythmdevil | FLAC | 1 | |||
| Richard Warren | flac | 1 | 32489 | ||
| Rick Martin | Flac | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | Complete Matrix Set 2(Sick Bits Vol. 16A) | |
| Robert Goetz | flac | 1 | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell; flac(1)>cda(1) | flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell; flac(1)>cda(1) | |
| Rolf K | CD-R | 2 | |||
| Ryan Dunnion | flac | Matrix | |||
| scott | |||||
| Scott Cole | FLAC | 1 | MATRIX | ||
| Scott Herring | FLAC | 1 | Matrix | DVD #9 Set 2 only | |
| Scott Shaw | flac cd | 1 | MATRIX: SBD #12947 / AUD #302 | Sick Bits vol 16a. SET II ONLY! Includes cover art. 1 aud cd. | |
| sean hite | FLAC | (32489) Grateful Dead: flac 16; Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | |||
| Seth | FLAC | 1 | |||
| shakedown80 | |||||
| Shane M. Rockey | CD-R | 1 | set 2 only | ||
| Shawn Wiley | FLAC | 1 | Matrix | 1 disc audio -- Sick Bits Vol 16a -- partial Set 2 only | |
| Shoreline99 | |||||
| slslbs | FLAC | 1 | sick bits matrix | ||
| Steve | |||||
| Steve Glidewell | FLAC | 1 | SBD | set 2 | |
| Steve Swartz | |||||
| T Buckley | flac | 2 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | ||
| Terence Keating | flac | 1 | |||
| Terrapanda | 1 | ||||
| thrak | flac | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302) | ||
| Tom | FLAC | 1 | |||
| Tom Murphy | flac | 1 | Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | Sick Bits Vol. 16a Matrix: SBD/AUD mix | |
| trailmix | flac16 | MTX SB16 | MTX sick bits 16 | ||
| TugMcG | CD | 1 | |||
| wally-brewing | dvd | 1 | d27 | ||
| wally-brewing | dvd | 1 | d28 | ||
| wayne sweigart | sick bits 16a | ||||
| Will | CDR | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a - matrix: SBD/AUD mix from 2 previously circulating sources; SBD: (shnid=12947)+ AUD: (shnid=302); edited, mixed and transfered by Chris Chappell | ||
| winterland121072 | |||||
| x poordevil | dvd shn | 1 | Matrix | ||
| YokohamaJ | cdr | 1 | |||
| Yossarian Hunter | flac | 1 | Sick Bits Vol. 16a | ||
| ziko | |||||
| ziko | |||||
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