Grateful Dead - 09/11/74
Alexandra Palace, London, England
Source:

SBD 3 disks
Outlook account one drive
Grateful Dead master folder

Media Type:

FLAC

Media Count:

3

Tech Notes:

Grateful Dead
09/11/74
Alexandra Palace, London, England

This is the third version to emerge recently.

First was the big jam - Seastones>Eyes>Wharf Rat, + A&A - via David Gans
Second was an almost complete SB version
Third is this version. It is 95% based on version #2, but with audience patches in 3 places:

(A). To cover some mix problems in Scarlet Begonias
(B). To provide the first 15 minutes of Phil & Ned, whcih was missing from version #2
(C). To provide Sunshine Daydream and US Blues, also missing from version #2

A small number of minor flaws in version #2 were also repaired, although some remain.

Mostly what you are hearing is UNCHANGED from version #2.

Portions of this show were released as part of Dick's Picks #7
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First Set

Scarlet Begonias
Mexicali Blues
Brown Eyed Women
Beat It On Down The Line
Sugaree
Jack Straw
Row Jimmy
Me And Bobby McGee
Tennessee Jed
Big River
It Must Have Been The Roses
Playing In The Band

Second Set

Phil & Ned >
Seastones >
Eyes Of The World >
Stronger Than Dirt >
space >
Wharf Rat

Third Set

Around And Around
Ship Of Fools
Goin' Down The Road Feelin' Bad >
Sugar Magnolia

Encore

U.S. Blues

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The lineage for version #2 follows:

Source: SBD
Lineage: Reel master > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN
Extraction and .shn encoding by Seth Kaplan (Sdk022769@aol.com)
Slight retracking of discs 2 and 3 (CoolEdit/CDWav) and
re-shnning by G.S. Hamilton
Thanks Seth for this beautiful copy!
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And version #3 (this version) has:

Audience patches : aud>cass master>1st gen cass>2nd gen cass>CDR>EAC>patch
The master audience recording is apparantly lost and the 1st gen is "with a guy who doesn't trade anymore".
Mics on stands spaced approx 12 feet apart.

The following editing by Hanno in order to compile the new version:

the following defects of the SBD tape were fixed (H.B., 5/01):
- d1t1 Scarlet Begonias, uneven mix from minute 2 to 3 patched from AUD/2
- d2t1/2 corrected track ID between Roses and Playing, fixed hiccup at the start of Playing
- Seastones 0:00 - 15:20 patched from AUD/2
- Sunshine Daydream - end of show patched from AUD/2
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The following editing by Alasdair in order to clean up/retrack the new version:

- Hanno pointed out that there are between-track flaws in the big jam in version #2. In a wave editor you could see the tiny fade-in (of approximately 1/10th of a second) at the start of Eyes and Wharf Rat. These are noticeable and irritating flaws. Version #1 seems to be a different mix (mostly with regard to the stereo imaging, which is narrower in version #1. Version #2 also sounds a little cleaner, so I have repaired as best I can the fade-in flaws on Eyes and Wharf Rat, with approximately 1/10th second patch from version #1. There was also a tiny glitch 1250 samples into the jam following Eyes (timing from version #2), which was repaired similarly.

d1t06 (Jack Straw): click @ 4:24
d1t09 (Tenn Jed) : retracked
d1t10 (Big River : retracked

d2t02 (PITB): glitch @ 0:01
d2t03 (Phil & Ned): digi-clicks @ 0:48, 0:48, 0:54, 1:20, 1:51 (slight crackle remains), 4:01, 7:20, crackles @ 2:51, 3:14, 4:17, (the thud which remains was also probably part of the analogue crackling here), 6:41 (as 4:17), 15:15, 11:30, 13:52, 15:03, 15:15. These timings run into d2t04, whcih I later tracked separately.

d3t01 (Eyes) : Fade-in at very start was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t03 (Space) : Glitch at 1250 samples in (on version #2) was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t04 (Wharf Rat) : Fade-in at very start was repaired with matching section from Gans version.
d3t05 (A&A) clicks @ 0:12 reduced, repeated section @ 4:45 removed, some silence added at start
d3t09 (USB) crackles @ 1:24, 5:19, click @ 5:18, 5:18, 5:21, 5:22

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Taking Phil & Ned>Seastones as a whole, Billy comes in at 11:39 and Guitarists from 11:55 (??) Then first Eyes hints come in at 34:35, 39:05. I split the track into 2 ("Phil & Ned" and "Seastones") mostly because I find CD tracks of this length quite unmanageable; sometimes I want to move around the track quicker. I also retracked Eyes>jam>Wharf Rat to include Stronger Than Dirt as a separate track, for the same reason.
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Someone somewhere may be interested in which tracks are changed from the 4-CD version, and which are unaltered:

version #3 d1t01 is new (Scarlet)
version #3 d1t02 is identical to version #2 d1t02
version #3 d1t03 is identical to version #2 d1t03
version #3 d1t04 is identical to version #2 d1t04
version #3 d1t05 is identical to version #2 d1t05
version #3 d1t06 is repaired from version #2 d1t06
version #3 d1t07 is identical to version #2 d1t07
version #3 d1t08 is identical to version #2 d1t08
version #3 d1t09 is retracked from version #2 d1t09
version #3 d1t10 is retracked from version #2 d2t01 (Big River)

version #3 d2t01 is retracked from version #3 d201 + d2t02 (Roses)
version #3 d2t02 is repaired and retracked from version #3 d2t02 + d2t03 (PITB)
version #3 d2t03 is new (Phil & Ned)
version #3 d2t04 is new (but mostly based on version #3 d3t01) (Seastones)

version #3 d3t01 is repaired from version #3 d3t02 (Eyes)
version #3 d3t02 is repaired from version #3 d3t02 (Stronger Than Dirt)
version #3 d3t03 is repaired from version #3 d3t03 (Space)
version #3 d3t04 is repaired from version #3 d3t04 (Wharf Rat)

version #3 d3t05 is repaired from version #3 d4t01 (A&A)
version #3 d3t06 is renamed from version #3 d4t02 (Ship)
version #3 d3t07 is renamed from version #3 d4t03 (GDTRFB)
version #3 d3t08 is new (Sug Mag/SSDD)
version #3 d3t09 is new (US Blues)
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Remaining flaws:

d1t02 (Mexicali): crackle @ 2:42
d1t03 (BEW): quiet crackle @ 3:52
d1t10 (Big River): crackle @ 3:01

d2t03 (Phil & Ned): crackle @ 5:40 (quiet), 9:08 (this is similar to those removed @ 4:17 & 6:41, and is perhaps from analogue recording or playback circuitry. If I though it was from the PA I would have left it alone). Also 10:18 (very quiet, Left channel), 10:24 & 10:25 (quiet, Right channel), 10:28, 10:31, 11:30 (sounds like a scratched record, but less noise than the original), 12:52 (quiet), 13:52 (also partially reduced from original), 15:03 (Left channel, partly reduced)

d2t03 (Phil & Ned): distortion (overload) @ 3:40, 6:13, several instances 7:20-7:50, 9:00-9:45, 11:40-12:18, 15:17
(All noted Phil & Ned flaws are in the audience portion, there are some glitches (eq at 22:01) in the SB portion, but it is in the nature of Seastones that glitches may not in fact be glitches, and I chose to leave the SB portion alone. There are no majorly disturbing glitches in this part anyway LOL).

d3t01 (Eyes): click @ 0:18, Jerry's guitar distorts @ 4:08, possible glitch @7:19??, clicks @ 9:15, 9:16, 15:39, possible splice @ 16:25??, click @21:43
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alimac@netcomuk.co.uk 31st May 2001

Trades Allowed: Yes Traded From:

Show Rating:

Sound Rating:

SBD

Reference #:

Firewalkwithme41@gma

Generation:

0

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Owned by Xavier Birtwich · Last Updated May 23, 2023


Grateful Dead 09/11/74
Alexandra Palace, London, England
Set I
Scarlet Begonias
Mexicali Blues
Brown Eyed Women
Beat It On Down The Line
Sugaree
Jack Straw
Row Jimmy
Me & Bobby McGee
Tennessee Jed
Big River
It Must Have Been The Roses
Playing In The Band
Set II
Eyes Of The World >
Wharf Rat
Around & Around
Ship Of Fools
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad
Sugar Magnolia

Encore:
U.S. Blues
Set III
 
Comment
Phil & Ned jam between sets.
This date is featured on Dick's Picks 7.

Jerry Garcia - Guitar
Bob Weir - Guitar
Keith Godchaux - Keyboards
Phil Lesh - Bass
Bill Kreutzmann - Drums
Donna Jean Godchaux - Vocals
Last Changed By J
Sources
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complete; SBD Reel master > DAT > CDR > EAC > SHN; Extraction and .shn encoding by Seth Kaplan; Slight retracking of discs 2 and 3 (CoolEdit/CDWav) and re-shn (v2) by G.S. Hamilton; to BUDD and etree; note parts of the run are on Dick's Picks 7- go buy it
(4647) View Source    View Archive
SBD (as previous shn set), with added AUD patches- see info file for details; patching by Hanno Bunjes, some cleanup by Alasdair; to BUDD offer; Hanno's notes; note d3 tracked for 80 min; note parts of the run are on Dick's Picks 7- go buy it
(7365) View Source    View Archive
Jay Ashley (Bertha) remaster of Master Reel source; SBD>>MR>>DAT>>CDA>>SHN>>DAW(Bertha)>>CDA - Sound A
(12183) View Source    View Archive
Candelario Matrix MSR D CD except first 15:22 of Seastones (on Disc #2): AUD end of Sunshine Daydream and encore: AUD See info file for details; Mastering by Dave Greenberg; via Jed Distler; Seeded to etree by Jim Powell and Jay Gerland; See note in 'public comment' area regarding d3fix md5's
(121207) View Source    View Archive
flac16; Partial SBD > Master Reel > DAT > Sonic Solutions > DAT > CD > FLAC
(131901) View Source    View Archive
flac16; Recorded by unknown taper; Gen 2 Cassettes; Transferred on a NakCr7a
(132458) View Source    View Archive
flac16; 3 source matrix by Dusborne; Soundboard 1(Shnid:012183) Candelario Matrix MSR > D> CD; Soundboard 2(Shnid:121207) SBD > Master Reel > DAT > Sonic Solutions > DAT > CD > FLAC and Audience (Shnid:131901) unknown taper; Gen 2 Cassettes; Transferred on a NakCr7a
(135802) View Source    View Archive
flac16; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat; Transfer Info: Dat -> Tascam SS-R05 -> Samplitude Professional v11.2.1 -> FLAC; All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller; fixed version in circulation
(135883) View Source    View Archive
flac16; Recording Info: SBD -> Master Reel -> Dat; Transfer Info: Dat -> Tascam SS-R05 -> Samplitude Professional v11.2.1 -> FLAC; All Transfers and Mastering By Charlie Miller; this source fixes the flaws in source ID 135802
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