Phish 02/03/91 Nak CM300 cardioid > Sony D5M (Cass/0) > Tascam CDR700; Tascam DA-20 > Coax > Waveterminal 2496 > Cool Edit Pro > CDWav > mkwACT > SHN; Note: Please see comments about lineage discrepencies

Phish 02/03/91
The Front, Burlington, VT

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Source #	14308
Entered by	Matt Vernon
Checksums	shn-md5 , st5 , ffp.ffp
Disc Counts	0 / 2
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Date Circulated Date Added	01/06/03 10/29/2003

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Nak CM300 cardioid > Sony D5M (Cass/0) > Tascam CDR700; Tascam DA-20 > Coax > Waveterminal 2496 > Cool Edit Pro > CDWav > mkwACT > SHN; Note: Please see comments about lineage discrepencies

            Phish

2-3-91

The Front, Burlington, VT

Source: Nak CM300 cardioid > Sony D5M (Cass/0) > Tascam CDR700

Conversion: Tascam DA-20 > Coax > Waveterminal 2496 > Cool Edit Pro > CDWav > mkwACT > .shn

DISC I / SET I

Runaway Jim

Guelah Papyrus

My Sweet One

Tweezer

Esther

Destiny Unbound

Reba

Chalk Dust Torture

Foam

Golgi Apparatus

DISC II / SET II

David Bowie

The Squirming Coil

The Landlady

Cavern

The Mango Song

Split Open and Melt

Bouncing Around the Room

Oh Kee Pa Ceremony

Suzy Greenberg

Jesus Just Left Chicago

Big Black Furry Creature From Mars

Set I -  Tape Flip at the beginning of Reba

Set II - Tape flip between Split Open and Melt and Bouncing Around the Room, SOAM fades out and Bouncing Fades in

Show Checksums

shn-md5

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st5

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ffp.ffp

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Date	User	Comment
10/28/2003	DaveH	This is my seed...the correct lineage is NakCM-300 cardioid > Sony D5M cassette > Tascam CDR700. There is no DAT lineage. If there were, you wouldn't have the tape flips. Does anyone have a setlist for 2/4? It was a 21 and over night and I was 20! I've never seen so much as even a setlist. Truly lost to history!!!!
10/29/2003	Ben Mohr	The correct recording information is now up (thanks Dave)! However, it should be noted that the transfer lineage may be incorrect as Dave stated that his master did not go to DAT, but to CDR. I am leaving this source and transfer info as is for now even though it is obviously incorrect. If anyone (seeder?) has more information regarding the appropriate lineage, please post a comment or email me.
10/29/2003	Alec	I am the orginal seeder of this show, and I got it on DAT with this source info: Aud>Cass/0>DAT How it got to DAT I don't know for sure, from tape or CDR And yes there are clearly tape flips, look at the source info, Sony D5M Cassette.
09/23/2004	CW	I think I can clear this up. This is another one of my transfers: Source: Master Cassette Audience (unknown mics) > Sony D5 Transfer: Aiwa AD-F850 3-Head > Apogee AD1000 > Tascam DA-302 > HHB CDR-850 (just like 11/22/91, 11/23/91, 11/24/91 for examples) I compared my original CD burn to the shn source all timings, sound quality and tape flips match up perfectly. Let me know if there's any issues with what's circulating for I have the originals.
09/24/2004	DaveH	How does that clear it up?? If it were your transfer, you would know what the mics were!! The cassette flips and track assignments match up with my master CDR, which was burned from my master cassette which I recorded that night with the aforementioned Nak300 lineage. I didn't SHN and upload the discs, though, so that part of it I can't speak for.
09/27/2004	twatts	I don't understand how there can be two sets of cass(m). How can CW be using a Cass(M), when it was David H. that taped. I can understand if he made Cass(m)>DAT>Cass(0) and that is what CW used.
09/27/2004		This source has been around for quite sometime now, the ORIGINAL text file, which predates this database entry, listed the source as AUD > Cass/0 > DAT, dunno why it was changed, since this is indeed Alec's transfer from DAT to SHN.
09/27/2004	jb	The problem is most likely that someone wanted to show off their second rate tape collection and labeled their tape Aud>CM>DAT when really it was probably Aud>Cass/3>DAT. Dave is the taper. He has the ONLY cassette master, and it was never transfered to DAT. Check the comments. There are people claiming to have done a Master Cass>CDR transfer without even knowing what mics they ran! It's laughable.
09/28/2004	Henrietta	the ORIGINAL text file read: Phish 2-3-91 The Front, Burlington, VT Source: Aud > Cass/0 > DAT Conversion: Tascam DA-20 > Coax > Waveterminal 2496 > Cool Edit Pro > CDWav > mkwACT > .shn This is Alec's transfer set up. Nak CM300 cardioid > Sony D5M (Cass/0) > Tascam CDR700 First of all this ^ shouldn't be in the text file at all. This particular source is from a DAT labeled AUD > Cass/0 > DAT. That Nak source info was entered in by the administrator based on speculation. Dave didn't transfer this source to shorten. Alec did from his DAT. The specific lineage of the DAT...is the controversial issue. ---- "The problem is most likely that someone wanted to show off their second rate tape collection and labeled their tape Aud>CM>DAT when really it was probably Aud>Cass/3>DAT" Have you heard this source? It is not from a cass/3. This one sounds like a master for sure. "Dave is the taper. He has the ONLY cassette master, and it was never transfered to DAT. Check the comments." I doubt dave was the only taper that produced a master cassette. Hence Chris has master cassettes of the same show. "There are people claiming to have done a Master Cass>CDR transfer without even knowing what mics they ran! It's laughable." heh, dont jump to conclusions...are you saying that these unknown mic sources aren't from legit cassette masters?: http://db.etree.org/shn/21593 http://db.etree.org/shn/20611 http://db.etree.org/shn/21797 Also highly doubtful that the tracking matches PERFECTLY with either daves or CWs discs, since this was transferred from DAT and tracked with CDWav prior to encoding to shorten.
09/28/2004	jb	While I appreciate the enthusiasm with which you are trying to defend Phish tape collectors, just check Diana's comments for precedent in regards to people re-labeling multi-gen cassettes as "master" just because they think they have the best source since sliced bread. http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=1358 As for the John Redmond seeds you reference, I trust the authenticity of those sources much more than this one.
04/21/2005	CW	Easy there DavidH - I got the master cassettes from Dan Chapman and did the digital transfer for him because I had the equipment. He couldn't remember who he patched off that night, or the type of mics. All I know is that this source is the same as mine. Do you remember the setup of every rig you've ever patched off? I mean jeez ; ) You could have 5 D5's all patching off the same rig and technically as far as sound quality goes, they are all Master Cassettes. I'm just sayin that if there's any issue with what's in circulation I may be able to help fix it since I seem to have what has been found to be a NAK 300 lineage. Just trying to help the community.
04/22/2005	twatts	Ahh!!! So, CW was patched out of the taper, so he does indeed have a Cass(m). So having his lineage say "Nak300>D5>D5>Cass(m)" would be more correct and would clear the confusion. You could also state this is CW's Cass(m) seed which was patched out of Dave's(?) rig. Then have a link to Dave's seed from his Cass(m). If CW had stated that the seed was a patch, none of this debate would have occured. Terry
04/22/2005	CW	If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never had happened. I thought it was my digi transfer too because my buddy downloaded this source from bt etree, and I compared it with mine just to see if the sound quality was any different, and they were identical. Then I noticed all the track timings were exactly the same too, and my edits on tape flips. So, hey, if it's a coincidence so be it. Mine was done with an Aiwa 3-Head F-850 > Apogee AD1000 > Tascam DA-302, then to an HHB CDR-850 for the DAT > CD transfer.
06/30/2012	geewiz010	FLAC fingerprints: ph1991-02-03d1t01.flac:0fbc35e9b5823eb948423f710b1fc998 ph1991-02-03d1t02.flac:19f7dc686d81e93d7985edc4d286a5c3 ph1991-02-03d1t03.flac:e7f9c627810de18cad736352bfcb6817 ph1991-02-03d1t04.flac:d075a7596b637ed99274b0ddca79eecd ph1991-02-03d1t05.flac:cca06c18fdad911c3b94ee24d9039056 ph1991-02-03d1t06.flac:8267913f39be9d77588c6190206aab66 ph1991-02-03d1t07.flac:53244a6baf5b336e793ac84df6e9e269 ph1991-02-03d1t08.flac:70cf8a4d160fb599779e4412af55a94e ph1991-02-03d1t09.flac:0215cc1ebf23d8de96e1c6301a049f7c ph1991-02-03d1t10.flac:087dff6f127352019c61302ff7f126c0 ph1991-02-03d2t01.flac:3fb0d92daf721088a392c1736a4a802c ph1991-02-03d2t02.flac:9440cf6d14412afe8f772828b3747450 ph1991-02-03d2t03.flac:d5d1d1ee96066049d46412ea80d60d3e ph1991-02-03d2t04.flac:e23791719e69be16839baaaea77f24f6 ph1991-02-03d2t05.flac:b4aa2aeb311df191edc78f46ed76414a ph1991-02-03d2t06.flac:85c42946f5e7b17add82dd59ed7d4ac4 ph1991-02-03d2t07.flac:cb16a8749ca03d929949416d3dc542af ph1991-02-03d2t08.flac:1d13b657603a9ed2a68251d233755b2e ph1991-02-03d2t09.flac:1e388cf8f3aaf6986ea047ab0a631a36 ph1991-02-03d2t10.flac:fe6e72474b8043c8850031bc3a552bf9 ph1991-02-03d2t11.flac:14443d20d4f545dcaf89c748ca1fefc4