The Dead 08/05/03 Source and Lineage: AKG 391B>Denecke AD-20>Sony PCM- M1Dat>CDR>EAC>SHN>WAV>ADWS>CD WAV>SHN(seekable) ; Taped by Jim O'Malley ; orignal SHN by Brian B ; Mastering by T. Wiley 08/26/2003.

The Dead 08/05/03
Verizon Wireless Music Center, Noblesville, IN

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Source #	19185
Entered by	Steve Swartz
Checksums	shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts	2 / 3
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Date Circulated Date Added	08/26/2003 09/04/2003

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Source and Lineage: AKG 391B>Denecke AD-20>Sony PCM- M1Dat>CDR>EAC>SHN>WAV>ADWS>CD WAV>SHN(seekable) ; Taped by Jim O'Malley ; orignal SHN by Brian B ; Mastering by T. Wiley 08/26/2003.

            The Dead

08/05/2003

Verizon Wireless Amp., Noblesville, IN

Location: Taper's section

Taper: Jim O'Malley

Source: AKG 391B>Denecke AD-20>Sony PCM- M1Dat>CDR>EAC>SHN

Mastering: SHN>WAV>ADWS>CD WAV>SHN(seekable)

Mastering by T. Wiley 08/26/2003.

SET 1

CD 1 {67:55.51}   

01. Jam-> {3:24.41}

02. Playin' In The Band-> {10:09.62} 

03. U.S. Blues-> {7:49.25} 

04. Stagger Lee {8:23.15} 

05. Good Morning Little School Girl* {6:35.49}

06. Ballad of a Thin Man* {7:23.51}

07. Oh Boy* {4:28.35}

08. Baba Jingo {7:53.03} 

09. He's Gone {11:47.70}

SET 1 Cont.

CD 2 {74:36.74}

01. Unbroken Chain {12:11.21} 

SET 2 

02. //Weather Report Suite {8:24.73} 

03. Let It Grow {16:54.47} 

04. The Eleven {15:21.16} 

05. All That We Are {6:14.52} 

06. Drums {15:30.15}

SET 2 Cont.

CD 3 {54:15.13} 

01. Space {6:25.58} 

02. Lady With A Fan {8:39.36} 

03. Morning Dew {11:59.43} 

04. Terrapin Station {8:25.22} 

05. Sugar Magnolia {10:00.38} 

06. Donor Rap {1:19.23} 

ENCORE

07. Attics Of My Life {7:25.18}  

* With Bob Dylan

Notes: All breaks between disks are seemless. D2t02 (Weather Report Suite) begining is clipped 

I am not sure how much is missing. Redundancy between D2 and D3 is removed.

Thanks to Brian B. for the source SHNs!

Enjoy!!

C:\SHN>shntool len *.wav

    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename

     3:24.41      36082076     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t01.wav

    10:09.62     107573468     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t02.wav

     7:49.25      82790444     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t03.wav

     8:23.15      88764524     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t04.wav

     6:35.49      69793292     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t05.wav

     7:23.51      78265196     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t06.wav

     4:28.35      47357564     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t07.wav

     7:53.03      83444300     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t08.wav

    11:47.70     124879484     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d1t09.wav

    12:11.21     128997836     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t01.wav

     8:24.73      89077340     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t02.wav

    16:54.47     178980188     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t03.wav

    15:21.16     162502076     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t04.wav

     6:14.52      66095948     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t05.wav

    15:30.15     164087324     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d2t06.wav

     6:25.58      68050460     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t01.wav

     8:39.36      91636316     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t02.wav

    11:59.43     126932780     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t03.wav

     8:25.22      89133788     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t04.wav

    10:00.38     105929420     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t05.wav

     1:19.23      13989740     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t06.wav

     7:25.18      78540380     ---   --    ---    dead2003-08-05d3t07.wav

   196:47.63    2082903944 B                      (totals for 22 files)

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Date	User	Comment
Other Sources (comments) Source: AKG 480's/CK61's >... (0) Source: AKG 393 (DIN 90deg,... (1)
09/04/2003		wouldn't Jim O'Malley be the person who mastered this show? I would have to categorize T. Wiley's efforts as a re-mastering job.
09/07/2003	mcole	Jim recorded and engineered; Tim mastered.
09/07/2003		not if it was already encoded to shn. it was extracted FROM shn and then RE-mastered.
09/07/2003	mcole	Mr. Toad says, "One of the main aspects of Mastering is the sweetening of the audio. It is not voodoo, but the resulting master can indeed be a revelation from the previously supplied mixes." Rather than engage in a lenthy discussion on semantics, lets review the information Tim put in the text file: Show was taped by Jim; original shns were made by Brian; and Tim mastered those shns to yield this file set.
09/07/2003		still a remaster as far as im concerned
09/08/2003	twatts	master vs. remaster aside, how was the transfer accomplished, and why was the mastering done at that time? Why the DAE, then (re)master??? Why not do it all at once and do it right??? Terry
09/08/2003		I believe that Jim O'Malley is a regular on the otherones.net discussion forums. He did the actual mastering of the show and spread it there on CDR. Someone took a CD Audio copy, EAC'd it, then re-mastered it and put it to SHN. The extra DAE step occurred because the taper did not encode to SHN the original wave files that were converted from DAT.
09/08/2003	twatts	Why didn't the taper encode to SHN? And if the taper is not SHN capable, how was the DAT>CDR done? Magic? Voodoo? Act of God? T
09/08/2003	Diana	I don't know anything about this particular example, but I do know that a number of Dead tapers convert by going DAT> professional standalone.
09/08/2003	Diana Hamilton	...and a quick google shows that standalone is probably the case with Jim also, see http://db.etree.org/shninfo_detail.php?shnid=19186 Please don't lambaste tapers for doing it this way. It's acceptable! http://wiki.etree.org/index.php?page=SeedingGuidelines
09/08/2003	Brian B.	I guess this is where I come in.I received this show in a trade a few weeks back.Jim transferred his dat to a standalone unit.At the time,there were no copies of this show circulating.I did not want to handle the seeding,and turned it over to Tim Wiley who is more experienced at it than me.I ran the wavs through MKW and uploaded it to him.I instructed him to run the shntool and maybe sweeten it up if necessary.There is now another copy circulating,maybe check that out.I want to thank Jim for taping this!
09/09/2003	twatts	I'm not trying to lambaste anyone for anything. I'm just trying to fully understand the lineage of this show. "DAT>CDR" is not complete, unlike "DAT>Standalone". I understand and accept that some folks use standalones. This is fine, but generating incomplete text files is not. All this could have been explained in the text file, eliminating this whole discussion. Terry
09/09/2003	brbadg	It fully explains in the text file what's going on- "Source: AKG 391B>Denecke AD-20>Sony PCM- M1Dat>CDR>EAC>SHN Mastering: SHN>WAV>ADWS>CD WAV>SHN(seekable)" I think you're splitting hairs over "mastering" versus"re-mastering"
09/09/2003	twatts	Why are there questions if it is "fully explain[ed] in the text file what's going on-Source: AKG 391B>Denecke AD-20>Sony PCM- M1Dat>CDR>EAC>SHN. Mastering: SHN>WAV>ADWS>CD WAV>SHN(seekable)" Splitting hairs? No, I think the text is insufficient. If there were no problems, ie. "a full explantion", there would be no discussion. DAT>CDR is not clear. Which is why I asked the question above. Thanks for the answer Diana, you were the only one to help. Everybody else is just yelling and fighting - very un-Dead-like... or perhaps not... As I said earlier today on another GD comments section, I'm sorry I got involved in this discussion. It seems that all GD discussion end in battle... Its a shame... Terry
09/09/2003	mcole	Hey twatts: Looks like you were the one instigating mayhem. Have you even listened to this file set yet? What shows have you mastered and seeded? Throughout this database there are file sets with DAT>CDR in the lineage. Many times detailed information is provided regarding the equipment. When its not listed, its usually because the information is not available. Finally, just because we are arguing or debating, it shouldn't mean that we are in a "battle". We just need to keep it polite.
09/09/2003	sport	Once upon a time it was very simple."ITS ONLY ROCK & ROLL!
09/10/2003	twatts	Oh boy, was I in a foul mood yesterday! Apologize all around... I was just seeking some answers, sorry I got all bent! Terry
09/12/2003	mcole	No problem. You ultimately did bring up a good point: specificity in lineage.