Grateful Dead 11/02/85
Richmond Coliseum, Richmond, VA
Source # 27582
Entered by Matt Vernon
Checksums ffp , flac-md5
Disc Counts 2 / 2
Media Size
Date Circulated
Date Added
12/28/2004
01/19/2005
Source Summary
flac16; Matrix from 3 sources: SBD> ?> DAT> CD> EAC> WAV> SHN; AUD - Connor (FOB) Mics: Beyer Dynamic M88's; AUD - Oade (Tapers? Section) Mics: Schoeps (2 x CMC441, 1 x CMC42)> Sony PCM-F1; Matrixed by Chris Chappell
Grateful Dead
11-2-85
Richmond Coliseum
Richmond, VA
(Sick Bits Vol.1)

Source: Matrix:

SBD - > ? > DAT > CD > EAC > WAV > CoolEdit2000 (retracking) > SHN
AUD - Connor (FOB) Mics: Beyer Dynamic M88's > Sony TCD5M(CM)
AUD - Oade (Tapers? Section) Mics: Schoeps (2 x CMC441, 1 x CMC42)
> Sony PCM-F1 > Sony Portable BetaMax


complete text files for each of the 3 sources appended at end

Transfer/Editing:
All sources were snh files downloaded from LMA and converted to
WAV > Vegas 5 > WAV > FLAC

Matrixed by Chris Chappell
ScarFire@liquidcity.com
12/23/04

Set 1:
d1t01 - //Bertha >
d1t02 - Greatest Story Ever Told
d1t03 - Dupree's Diamond Blues
d1t04 - C.C. Rider
d1t05 - Althea
d1t06 - Brother Esau
d1t07 - Candyman
d1t08 - Let It Grow

Set 2:
d1t09 - Tuning
d1t10 - Iko Iko
d2t01 - Estimated Prophet >
d2t02 - Uncle John's Band >
d2t03 - China Doll >
d2t04 - Drums >
d2t05 - Space >
d2t06 - Morning Dew >
d2t07 - Throwing Stones >
d2t08 - Turn On Your Lovelight

Encore:
d2t09 - It's All Over Now Baby Blue

Total Times:
Disc 1 - 1:06:37:67
Disc 2 - 1:17:48:72

General Notes:

Often overshadowed by the novelty of the night before, this was always
a favorite show of those I attended because of the great performances
by all band members.  Highlights include a psychadelic ending on Iko
(w/Phil on vocals too), a moving China Doll out of a very innovative
modal jam post UJB, and a thunderous Dew out of Space.

Given the multiple sources available on the Llama, I decided to put the
effort into editing a matrix since I was never completely happy with
the SBD. The result is a worthwile listen, especially given that none
of the existing sources are complete.

Music Notes:

Everyone seemed to get a late start, thus the first few bars of Bertha
are missing, the SBD being the only source for the first 4 seconds.
Also, some of the tuning between Greatest Story and Dupree's is missing
from all 3 sources, right before Bobby invokes the crowd's assisstance
in getting people to stop lighting off fireworks. This timeline is most
likely missing about 10 seconds of dead air and a few fireworks, due to
everyone pausing their decks. The encore contains virtually no tuning,
but other than that the whole show is intact.

Tracking Notes:

The entire show fits on 2 discs with Iko at the end of disc 1. The
transition between the 2 discs can be put together seemlessly.
Sector boundaries on the original matrixed wavs are all OK and
confirmed by shntool without having to use the fix utility.
(see shntool output of flac files below)

Editing Notes:

- Pitch
All 3 sources were pitched differently, the SBD being the sharpest,
and the Oade AUD being the flatest.  Since the FOB AUD was also the
most intact, I used this as my master timeline and pitch reference to
which the other two sources were synched.  The SBD had to be pitched
down on average about -.20 (20 cents) while the OADE AUD was pitched
up on average about +.12 (12 cents) - 1.00 being 100 cents which is a
semitone.  Thus the SBD was about a fifth of a semitone sharp. It
is possible that the Oade Brothers' source is closest in pitch to
A=440, but since I used this source sporadically, it was easier to
pitch everything to Charlie Connor's FOB AUD.  My guess is that A=440
lies somewhere between the 2 AUD sources.  Antares auto-tuner would
reveal the truth, but I care not to know, whatever sounds good is best.

- Speed Fluctuation
Remember that all 3 field recording devices employed the reel (even
the Sony BetaMax) which resulted in speed fluctuation and thus pitch
variations.  The most noticeable is the SBD source because the cassette
deck used to record it is powered by the same juice as the whole Front
Of House, and combined with ELF from Phil the volts going to the deck
definately varied - not to mention pausing, which takes a while for the
reels and the motor to settle on a constant speed.  The SBD speed flux
could also be attributed to multiple generations from late 80's tape
decks. Since the AUDs were running off of battery power, much less
speed fluctuation exists.

- Synch
Even after pitch correcting the other two sources to the FOB AUD,
because of the speed fluctuation within a given source, multiple edits
were performed to keep the sources synched.  Because the FOB was my
master pitch and time ref, the SBD was synched to the FOB (too many
edits to list).

- Sonic Quality/Matrix ratio
The SBD suffers from many issues, the main one being that it is extremely
compressed which not only kills the dynamic response, but introduces
hiss and some serious peak-shaving.  The FOB AUD is nice and balanced,
while the Oade AUD has some low end added in post by Doug due to the
bass roll-off used on the Schoep mics (see txt below).  As a result, I
employed no EQ nor Compression finding the blend between the SBD and
the FOB AUD to be quite full.  T
ffp
gd85-11-02d1t01matrix.flac:841e4dcc889d9073086cad0f04257687
gd85-11-02d1t02matrix.flac:c75f91da7a20b23ac3e37d2360a1c80f
gd85-11-02d1t03matrix.flac:b5d588d0fb9a443f6568affa808d4f12
gd85-11-02d1t04matrix.flac:453279f48de42f533c62756ec1e8c650
gd85-11-02d1t05matrix.flac:591cbf1651c43a77e9a3ee953c8c63fe
gd85-11-02d1t06matrix.flac:0e8d365eb71dafcd99c7f1e207f36605
gd85-11-02d1t07matrix.flac:217c7d1642c0508e37f8143904f4989a
gd85-11-02d1t08matrix.flac:22a00f8c5d5b895f4da5387214697e4e
gd85-11-02d1t09matrix.flac:896872740d2d0a015c42db2b149ce695
gd85-11-02d1t10matrix.flac:a66bcbb3b56e9ebb9db18862f1e46f63
gd85-11-02d2t01matrix.flac:97f9b6cd96478c75615db64631285f57
gd85-11-02d2t02matrix.flac:9fc1217712c313f258fd4e4d9949fcc5
gd85-11-02d2t03matrix.flac:14c6e9a5e0a05d91cddcf509a99f2cf4
gd85-11-02d2t04matrix.flac:ad0db01486db072eef3881c44731f587
gd85-11-02d2t05matrix.flac:79b50ef5572b2ac683c371b69eaad72f
gd85-11-02d2t06matrix.flac:509d75fc1658541bfb63822fbf98ea0a
gd85-11-02d2t07matrix.flac:5ac8badec6be28b1825dc4e67f5988c4
gd85-11-02d2t08matrix.flac:1fcc7ef34bf68fbc191823033c0cb5a1
gd85-11-02d2t09matrix.flac:618ad105be2da040e7e0ffb772065c29
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6e924f5e62ac0ce1a95322c150f1c18f *gd85-11-02d2t06matrix.flac
439daea0887160c96aa44647b1441eb5 *gd85-11-02d2t07matrix.flac
578ad86d32aec3a6c89136936490a5fd *gd85-11-02d2t08matrix.flac
3da29e3b8c725d8aa3b9b3b0208cfde1 *gd85-11-02d2t09matrix.flac

Comments
Other Sources (comments)
(FOB)AUD>Beyer Dynamic... (0) SBD > ? > DAT > CD > EAC >... (2) Schoeps CMC441s (90deg,... (1) Source: Can't remember... (1) flac16 ; SRC: MAC (2 Senn... (0) flac24 ; SRC: MAC (2 Senn... (0) flac16 ; MAC; 2 x... (0) flac16 ; Source: 2 Beyer... (0) flac24 ; source: (2) audio... (0) flac16 ; (original shnid =... (0) flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0) DTS-Audio-CD 5.1 Mix ; SBD... (0) flac16/48kHz ; 5.1 LPCM... (0) flac16/48kHz ; Source... (0) flac24 ; Source Info: Ted... (0) flac16/48 Source Info:... (0) flac24/96 Source Info:... (0) flac1648 Rob Eaton's... (0) flac2496 Rob Eaton's... (0) flac1648 Stephen Thomas'... (0) flac2496 Stephen Thomas'... (0)
Date User Comment
06/07/2005 Charlie Miller This sounds a little fast and is also out of phase...not sure why 2 aud sources were used for the mix, that is probably what screwed up the phase...cm
06/12/2005 Chris Chappell Thanks Charlie - the SBD was pitched down 20 cents - the OADE AUD is only used where the Connor FOB AUD lacked coverage
06/13/2005 Charlie Miller Oh, now I understand. I thought that the 2 auds were mixed with the board for the complete show. What you did makes a lot of sense. As for the picth, I really didn't listen to it that much and I probably should have saved my comments till I had given it more attention...my bad...cm
06/16/2005 Charlie - you know you're the man - you're right about the phase - it's really due to the extreme amount of compression applied to the SBD - too bad there wan't a better copy circulating, which is why I tried to bring back some of the dynamics by doing a matrix, but in so doing some phasing is noticeable because the dynamic response is so different between the AUD and SBD - still an upgrade though, especially since none of the sources were complete - thanks for noticing - CC
06/16/2005 Charlie Miller You work is much appreciated :)
cm
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