Grateful Dead 08/17/91 SBD -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone -> Tascam DA40 -> (SPDIF)-> SB Live -> SoundForge -> Wav -> Shorten; via J. Josephs, originally named by song, with underscores, apostrophes et al; C. Hannigan renamed and reordered tracks to fit so the encore is at the beginning- see his new info file

Grateful Dead 08/17/91
Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountain View, CA

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Source #	497
Entered by	dr.unclear
Checksums	orig-shn-md5 , shn-md5 , st5
Disc Counts	0 / 2
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Date Circulated Date Added	11/23/99 07/03/2000

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SBD -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone -> Tascam DA40 -> (SPDIF)-> SB Live -> SoundForge -> Wav -> Shorten; via J. Josephs, originally named by song, with underscores, apostrophes et al; C. Hannigan renamed and reordered tracks to fit so the encore is at the beginning- see his new info file

            original info file below, followed by new one created by Charles Hannigan:

History: unknown mic -> DAT Master -> DAT Clone -> WAV -> SHN

The quality is very good!

I read the DAT clone from a TASCAM DA-40 with a SPIDIF connection

to a SoundBlaster Live! using Sound Forge XP 4.0. I then split the

master WAV into the individual tracks, which were then compressed

using Shorten.

My editorial goal is to create a CD so that each track flows into

another, with a minimum of Dead air. When the space between the songs

is interesting, I keep it in. Sometimes, I compromise the feeling of

being at the show in order to fit it onto a CD. If it is obvious that

I have the room, I leave the nuances in.

-- jej 11-23-99

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new info file for retracked version:

gd91-08-17  Shoreline Ampitheater

            Mountain View, CA

I have chosen to put the encore at the beginning

to fit the show on two disks.

Disk 1

01 Encore: It's All Over Now Baby Blue

Set 1

02 Help On The Way >

03 Slipknot >

04 Franklin's Tower

05 Wang Dang Doodle

06 Brown Eyed Women

07 Queen Jane Approximately

08 Tennessee Jed

09 The Music Never Stopped

Set 2

10 The Women Are Smarter

11 Ship Of Fools

Disk2

01 Smokestack Lightning >

02 He's Gone >

03 Jam >

04 Drums >

05 Space >

06 Dark Star Jam >

07 Morning Dew

08 One More Saturday Night

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Other Sources (comments) Source: SBD -> DAT Master... (0) flac16/48 ;... (1) flac16 ; Source:... (0) flac16 ; Hansokolow matrix... (0) flac16 ; Source: 2 Neumann... (0) flac24/96 Recording... (0) flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0) flac16/48kHz ; Source... (0) flac16/48khz Source : Nak... (1) flac24/96khz Source : Nak... (1)
12/04/2002	RussEasby	The text file says its an audience (unknown mics) and the SHN Entry Comments says its a SBD, so um which is it?
09/08/2003	Chris L.	Original SHN's had sector boundary errors on every track along with extra chunks. Performing a SHNTOOL FIX on these files, grouped by set, and re-encoding to seekable SHN resulted in the following md5 signature: eb95888e251d281d283952e9aeb2e5de gd91-08-17d1t01.shn 4622fd8a0ac71edaebeadb2d3d3b1a27 gd91-08-17d1t02.shn d9f04ebf309afca6126e9b947038214a gd91-08-17d1t03.shn 99f81b010b41cff92e84d8d7e5d7b976 gd91-08-17d1t04.shn 6ecdaddb745c372634d613f142f2c3a1 gd91-08-17d1t05.shn 315331420f82988c24b618d9737ebf4c gd91-08-17d1t06.shn a81bdd49d9fa94807fde29a9ce70783d gd91-08-17d1t07.shn 7f6b9aeefb1fdc769b9ca0d1ffcb24b7 gd91-08-17d1t08.shn 332ee05253fe87521817c46b4c60a2dd gd91-08-17d1t09.shn 53aeb1b1433d8b15161c9e60c780c478 gd91-08-17d1t10.shn 4687bbed9854fb22153113c73435b7ae gd91-08-17d2t01.shn 0f422a9c77ac083e7936dd3bdbff5ba5 gd91-08-17d2t02.shn 5b3623c14354ad852b7d6408c38bdda4 gd91-08-17d2t03.shn cc287801b7008ea865a76620197483c5 gd91-08-17d2t04.shn 46bc6cc0f8ca0e54b7e8c0b5a93b945a gd91-08-17d2t05.shn 98986add20f7287389820cb7b87b5e44 gd91-08-17d2t06.shn e24b3cbbd13ca7b4a8cd6fd5b0acf479 gd91-08-17d2t07.shn 04d675f1c8fdf80cfe0c5ec0fcf8339b gd91-08-17d2t08.shn 610a91ba790456675dedc6dd46032f2d *gd91-08-17d2t09.shn
09/08/2003	twatts	I know that its too late now, but isn't "interesting" a relative term, that what you find "uninteresting" others may find very "interesting"??? With this in mind, why cut out the space between songs... The show did NOT occur that way, why burn it that way??? And no, to fit onto 1 (or 2 CDRs) is not a good arguement since blanks are now dirt cheap... Terry
09/08/2003		Cost of blanks aside, it's a pain to have to switch CDs in the middle of a set when the whole set can fit on one by deleting nothing more than blank space with no music or even tuning or talking. I listen mostly on headphones or in my car, so I do not have a multi-disc changer available. I have no problem with this practice as long as no music, tuning, or band chatter is missing. I will never, ever circulate shows like this, but for my personal use, I routinely go so far as to even cut out segments of Drums or Space to fit a set II on one CD.
09/08/2003	DSquared	Yeah discs are cheaper, so what? Unless there's some interesting banter or tuning going on, why would I want a track full on nothing? Just because the show went that way doesn't mean I have to waste my time listening to the "way the show was". It's ludicrous for me to have to wait for Garcia to finish his cigarette just so I can have the "complete" show. My .02 anyway.
09/08/2003		I'll take the way it actually went down with all the extra stuff. Isn't that the point of archiving live recordings?
09/09/2003	Brian B.	Well,Terry I wouldn't qualify it like that,your comments were warranted. If they want to cut the space out or tunings,they should do it for their selves. I totally agree with leaving it the way it went down,period.