Grateful Dead 09/08/91
Madison Square Garden, New York, NY
Source Summary
DVD-Audio 5.1; DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound - 3 Source Mix: SBD (shnID = 75772), AUD1 (shnID = 96398) and AUD2 (shnID = 98392)
Grateful Dead
Madison Square Garden
New York, NY
September 8, 1991

DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound - 3 Source Mix
(MLP Encoded 6ch x 24/48)

Set 1 - Disc 1
01 [01:41] Crowd & Tuning
02 [06:38] Touch of Grey
03 [05:32] Greatest Story
04 [08:48] Loser
05 [09:24] Minglewood Blues
06 [07:23] Candyman
07 [05:25] Big River >
08 [09:25] Maggie's Farm
09 [09:27] Row Jimmy
10 [14:14] Let it Grow
TT [78:01]

Set 2 - Disc 2
01 [01:05] Crowd & Tuning
02 [07:59] Samson & Delilah
03 [14:22] Eyes of the World >
04 [07:17] Saint of Circumstance >
05 [09:02] Dark Star Jam >
06 [12:02] Drums >
07 [07:08] Space >
08 [09:38] The Other One >
09 [10:09] Wharf Rat >
10 [08:50] Good Lovin'
  Encore:
11 [05:35] Attics of My Life
TT [93:13]

Full Show
TT [2hrs : 51min : 14.575sec]

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Source Info

SBD (shnID = 75772)
DSBD > DAT > CDA
Cleaned up copy of shnID=1069 by Darryl Hinko
I cut out some repeat material between d2t06 Drums and d3t01 Space,
the discs are now seamless.  (Also: Removal of many, many pops.)
shnID=1069 Seeded by jashley@deadacated.com

AUD1 (shnID = 96398)
FOB Digital Audience Recording
The James Young & Clay Brennecke FOB Vault - clayb@fobdfc.com
Lineage: Master DAT
Recording Equipment: B&K 4011 110 ORTF > Neumann BS 48i-2 >
Modified Sony TCD D-10 Pro
Recording Location: FOB
Set 1 Hand Held, Row R, Off Center
Set 2 On Stand, Row R, On Aisle
Recorded By: James Young and Clay Brennecke
Transfer: 16/48k DAT Master > TASCAM DA-20 (SPDIF out) >
LynxTWO-B Audio Reference Interface (SPDIF in) > Wavelab 6.0
by Todd Evans (todd@bluedakota.com) November 9, 2008
Editing and Mastering: Jamie Waddell (shnflac@gmail.com)
Weiss Saracon for 16 BIT 44.1kHz SRC and POWR-3 Dither
Encoding by Dazed64. Tracked in CDwave, FLAC Frontend level 8
Tag & Rename for FLAC Meta-Tagging.

AUD2 (shnID = 98392)
Sennheiser ME-80's > Technics SV-MD1 from OTS
DAT Master > Tascam DA-30MKII > Sound Devices 702 > Soundforge 9
(Fades, Sample Rate Conversion)>CDWAV>FLAC
Recorded & Transferred By Keith Litzenberger

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Special Thanks

Many thanks to James Young and Clay Brennecke for their wonderful
recording.  Also thanks to Keith Litzenberger for his excellent
recoding as well.  Thanks to Jay Ashley and Darryl Hinko for their
transfer and mastering/editing on the SBD source.  And thanks to
both Jamie Waddell and Todd Evens for their pristine transfers and
excellent editing/mastering on the FOB.

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Notes on the Source Material

SBD (shnID = 75772)
This is another strange 1991 SBD.  Let me explain.  Quite a few
digital SBD's for the 1991 year are in circulation.  I am sure
some of you have noticed a sorta strange sound quality to them.
What makes them sound they way they do is unknown to me.  I'd
call them too digital.  They tip-toe along the edge of blurry.
If I had to guess I would think a portable DAT deck was being fed
an analog signal into the line in.  And although the levels were
set appropriately the deck was overloaded by 'too hot' a feed
from the SBD.

AUD1 (shnID = 96398)
Nice and well balanced FOB.  This upfront FOB grabs quite a bit
of the sound but not as much atmosphere as you'd like for making
a matrix mix. However, this does help the sterile, straight SBD
out quite a bit.  While it doesn't completely fix the strange
"digitally" sound of the SBD it does help quite a bit.

AUD2 (shnID = 98392)
Another great sounding AUD.  I love it when multiple source can be
used to make a 5.1 and a stereo matrix.  This doubles the options
for the multichannel mixdown and also allows for more flexibility
in the 5.1.  Not just the standard SBD front and AUD in the rear.
This also allows me to do high rez mixdown for each of the 6
channels as well as a high rez stereo mixdown of all 3 sources.

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Tech Notes

FLAC/SHNs were decoded to wave. Wavmerge was used to reassemble the
tracks back to 1 long wave.  CEP2.0 was used to align & synch all 3
sources (time compress and expand).  SF8.0 was used for the EQ setting
on the LFE and CTR channels.  SF8.0 used to adjust the volume for the
center, surround and LFE channels.  SF8.0 was used to perform the hard
limiting on the LFE channel.  Surcode MLP was used to encode all six
channels utilizing a lossless compression scheme. DiscWelder was used
to author and create the DVD-Audio in 5.1 and created the ISO image
file.  This incorporates 6 channels of 24/48 wave files.
- Mixed by dan@am-dig.com
- ISO created 05-MAY-2009
- Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results
print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper.
Design for use with a clear slim 7mm double DVD case.

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DVD-Audio Info

Front
Left Channel SBD + AUD2 Matrix
Right Channel SBD + AUD2 Matrix

Center
Mono Mix -5db SBD + AUD1 Matrix DEQ'd

Surround
Left Channel AUD1 + AUD2 Matrix -3db
Right Channel AUD1 + AUD2 Matrix -3db

Sub/LFE
Mono Mix SBD + AUD1 Matrix DEQ'd + Hard Limiting -.07db

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Multitrack Mixdown 5.1 Surround

Front
75772_SBD -1db
98392_AUD2 -10db

CTR (mono mix)
75772_SBD -1db
98392_AUD2 -10db

CTR (mono mix)
75772_SBD -1db
98392_AUD2 -10db

Rear
96398_AUD1 -4db
98392_AUD2 -10db

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Notes

d2t11 Gradual volume raised on Attics to +3db

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About 24/48 Resolution

This represents the 24 bit files that are the result of all the
editing preserved in 24 bit. (Editing: time compress/expand, EQing
and of course the multichannel, multi-source mixdown for both front
and rear stereo fields.)

It is unclear exactly what we have in the way of high resolution.
However what we have here would not be represented accurately in 16/44.
In short, upsampling simply adds 000's to the end of the data stream
where as this multichannel mixdown of three 16/44 sources does in
fact utilize the entire data stream.  I choose to preserve the extra
data rather than chop it off.

How much different does this sound? is this better?  A little and
yes. This is more accurate and has more dynamic range.  24/48
resolution versus a1 6/44 of the same material will usually result
in very subtle but important differences.  Most of it relying on
the quality of the DVD-A player its D to A conversion.  With  that
in mind this 24 bit copy is no different.  Small but important gains
over the same material in 16/44.  This is just one man's take.

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Lineup

Jerry Garcia (guitar, vocals)
Bob Weir (guitar, vocals)
Phil Lesh (bass)
Vince Welnick (keyboards, vocals)
Bruce Hornsby (grand piano, according, vocals)
Mickey Hart (drums, percussions)
Bill Kreutzmann (drums, percussions)

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Additional Formats

This show is available in the following formats:

1. The SBD and AUD sources listed above at 16/44
2. CD-Audio Stereo SBD+AUD1+AUD2 Matrix Mix at 16/44
3. CD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound DTS-Audio-CD at 16/44
4. DVD-Audio Stereo SBD+AUD1+AUD2 Matrix Mix at 24/48
5. DVD-Audio 5.1 Surround Sound at 24/48 (6 channel x 24/4

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MLP Info Disc 1

Encoder version: "1.23 (SL VC6 0.40 Sep  3 2002 10:31:18)"
   Copyright: (C) 1998-2002 Meridian Audio
Hardware key: none found
      Vendor: Minnetonka (#7 Sep 05 2002 03:32:37)
        User: Minnetonka Audio Software (#10061 Jul 06 2004 14:16:00)
Encoder channel assignment: 20 ((Group 1)   Lf, Rf, Ls, Rs  /  (Group 2)   C, LFE)
Encoder input: Lf - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_1FL_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rf - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_2FR_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Ls - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_5SL_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rs - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_6SR_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: C - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_3CTR_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: LFE - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_4LFE_mtx24_d1.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Lf = -6.0 dB (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rf = off (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Ls = -12.0 dB (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rs = off (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813)
Encoder downmix: left channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Lf = off (0.177828) (slot 0/0)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rf = -6.0 dB (0.501187) (slot 1/1)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Ls = off (0.501187) (slot 2/2)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rs = -12.0 dB (0.251189) (slot 3/3)
Encoder downmix: right channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813) (slot 4/4)
Encoder downmix: right channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828) (slot 5/5)
Encoder output: F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d1.mlp
Encoder range: start - 0.000000 seconds (0 samples) / stop - 4681.533000 seconds (224713584 samples)
Encoder peak bits-per-sample: 200.000000
Encoder data rate: variable rate
Encoder IEC61937: not IEC61937-compliant (information only)
Encoder restart gap: every 8 access units
Encoder  Auto BDR: Step #0  Lf=0 Rf=0 Ls=0 Rs=0 C=0 LFE=0
Encoder initialization: succeeded
Encoder encoding: succeeded
Verify: version 4123200
Verify: verifying stream "F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d1.mlp".
Verify: stream "F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d1.mlp" passed.

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MLP Info Disc 2

Encoder version: "1.23 (SL VC6 0.40 Sep  3 2002 10:31:18)"
   Copyright: (C) 1998-2002 Meridian Audio
Hardware key: none found
      Vendor: Minnetonka (#7 Sep 05 2002 03:32:37)
        User: Minnetonka Audio Software (#10061 Jul 06 2004 14:16:00)
Encoder channel assignment: 20 ((Group 1)   Lf, Rf, Ls, Rs  /  (Group 2)   C, LFE)
Encoder input: Lf - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_1FL_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rf - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_2FR_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Ls - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_5SL_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rs - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_6SR_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: C - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_3CTR_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder input: LFE - F:\shn\gd1991-09-08_haugh_4LFE_mtx24_d2.wav (24 bits, 48000 samples/sec)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Lf = -6.0 dB (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rf = off (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Ls = -12.0 dB (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rs = off (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813)
Encoder downmix: left channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Lf = off (0.177828) (slot 0/0)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rf = -6.0 dB (0.501187) (slot 1/1)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Ls = off (0.501187) (slot 2/2)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rs = -12.0 dB (0.251189) (slot 3/3)
Encoder downmix: right channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813) (slot 4/4)
Encoder downmix: right channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828) (slot 5/5)
Encoder output: F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d2.mlp
Encoder range: start - 0.000000 seconds (0 samples) / stop - 5593.043188 seconds (268466073 samples)
Encoder peak bits-per-sample: 200.000000
Encoder data rate: variable rate
Encoder IEC61937: not IEC61937-compliant (information only)
Encoder restart gap: every 8 access units
Encoder  Auto BDR: Step #0  Lf=0 Rf=0 Ls=0 Rs=0 C=0 LFE=0
Encoder initialization: succeeded
Encoder encoding: succeeded
Verify: version 4123200
Verify: verifying stream "F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d2.mlp".
Verify: stream "F:\DTS in progress\gd1991-09-08-mlp-d2.mlp" passed.


707fcced68979a6b769660dbba7cac5f *gd1991-09-08_haugh_mlp_d1.iso
74c3bb7a0a3e3bb45d8905ff2b73569d *gd1991-09-08_haugh_mlp_d2.iso

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