Genesis - 12/08/74
Palace Theater, Providence, RI
Source:

Audience recording by Dan Lampinski

Media Type:

CDR

Media Count:

2

Notes:

DVD 2493; lineage: PRRPGS 025 - Lampinski remaster. Master audience recording taped by Dan Lampinski. Sony TC-152SD Tape Recorder, Sony ECM-99 Stereo Microphone, Maxell cassettes. Mastered and FLAC'ed by Carl Morstadt (dantalion8@yahoo.com). Master Cassette -> Nakamichi CR-3A cassette deck with azimuth correction -> M-Audio Firewire Audiophile 2496 -> CDWAV 24-bit/96-KHz wav files -> Goldwave (normalizing and crossfades) -> CDWAV (track breaks) -> dBpowerAMP Audio Converter -> FLAC Front End (FLAC 8 with sector boundary alignment)

Tech Notes:

Remaster
1. Speed error identified and corrected.
2. Tape flips repaired and missing section at beginning partially restored.
3. Tonality rebalanced.
4. Dynamic filters applied to small segments.
5. Dynamic adjustments used to correct excesses and compensate for auto-record level function.
6. Channel balance adjusted.
7. Add track for Interlude.
8. Re-track, splitting discs at second Rael story without fadeout.

J-Card Comment:

The Lampinski Lamb

In 2009 Genesis fans were blessed by the release of a previously uncirculated master sourced tape of Genesis performing ëThe Lamb Lies Down On Broadwayí, recorded in Providence, Rhode Island on December 8th, 1974. From Carl and Kev, the ones responsible for the torrent release:

ìCarl was up in Foxboro, Mass. to see John Wetton and The School Of Rock All-Stars, and started talking with the guy sitting next to him. Turns out they had more than a little common musical ground, starting with King Crimson and it worked rapidly downhill from there. Shockingly, the topic of tapes came up and it just so happens this guy taped a bunch of shows in the 1970s that he essentially kept to himself. This series of torrents represents the fruits of Carl's labor - multiple trips to Dan's house to pick up tapes, lovingly and carefully transfer the recordings and then prepare them for our collective listening pleasure.

ìThis show has circulated before, from a different source, and is one of the most legendary known ëLambí recordings. This torrent represents an equally excellent recording from Dan Lampinskiís master tapes that have never circulated. Carl and I were shocked when we discovered this. We had assumed that the Glasnost radio and Hogweed #14 versions were from Dan's recording but close listening to the intro and crowd noises reveals this to be untrue.î

Could this be? The Hogweed #14 remaster, from this date and venue, has always been considered one of the best ëLambí audience recordings and Mr. Lampinskiís recordings already had a reputation for excellence. Is it possible that two experienced tapers were at this show? Hogweed #14 was known to be from a 1st generation tape. Another 1st generation version (un-remastered) was torrented by the well-respected DIME member glasnostrd19. They both seem to be the same source. But where did these 1st generation sources come from? The Hogweed #14 information booklet contains the following memories from someone who was there:

I met the taper of this show while waiting in line to see Robert Fripp on his solo/spoken word 'Frippertronics' tour in the spring of 1983 in Boston, Mass. USA. As is normal to pass time, I struck up a conversation with the people around me. After a bit, I began talking to an older guy (I was 20 and he was almost 30) about concerts we'd seen, etc. One thing led to another and I came to find out that he was an avid taper of shows in the Boston area. He'd been recording concerts since the mid 1970s and was the first person I'd met who taped non-Grateful Dead shows. After the show, we exchanged names and numbers in order to do some tape trading. A few weeks passed and my room mate and I went to his apartment. It was at this point that I realized that this guy had recorded some great shows. But that's all he seemed to do. His job was to record shows for you and I to enjoy. Over the last two decades, I've taken great pleasure in this work. Now you too will enjoy this man's work when you listen toÖ.. David Campbell

Glasnostrd19 has written this about his tape:
ìWay back in the late í70s I did one trade with a guy in R.I. who was a big fan of Genesis and U.K., and made three recordings that he sent me 1st gen. copies of. This Genesis Providence recording may sound even better than the soundboard, since it was apparently recorded with some of the best equipment available in 1974. This is the first time I've posted my 1st gen. copy of it and it is the whole show. The only parts missing are the first few seconds of ëThe Chamber of 32 Doorsí for a tape flip, and the beginning of Peter's talk before the show starts. The second tape flip cut is unnoticeable to me in here. Thanks much to S.P. for this great ëLambí recording.î

So, who was the taper for this 1st generation source? And is Lampinskiís tape really a different source? On the original DIME forum of the Lampinski release, DIME member mattbea61 posed the question:

ìMany thanks for uploading this and all the previous recordings from this taper. Exciting times indeed BUT I have to ask, how can you be sure this Lampinski and the version previously upped by Glasnostrd19 are not one and the same? The same cuts are evidence enough but the fact that Glasnostrd19 traded for his copy from a guy in RI (not the taper) and is merely using his best guess as to the equipment used give me cause to seriously doubt these are two different recordings. Can anyone, having grabbed and listened to both, help out and help me decide which to get?î

DIME member simonmarsden responded with the answer: ìThe other was a Joe Maloney tape if I remember correctlyî. DIME member Carlthulhu then provided some evidence that the two recordings were, indeed, different:

ìThere is some audience participation at the end of ëWatcher of the Skiesí on the glasnostrd19 version that is not on the Lampinski version, for anyone looking to verify that they are two different sourcesî. PRRP has verified this to be true. A fan yells ìWoo woo woo wooî which is heard on the Glasnostrd19 source and Hogweed #14, but not on Lampinski. Also, in the Rael story just before ëBack in N.Y.C.í, 9 seconds after Gabriel starts the story there is an audience memberís cough heard in the Hogweed version that is not heard in Lampinski. Finally, during this same Rael story, after Gabriel says, ì78 seconds flatî there is a yelp from an audience member who is close to Lampinskiís microphones and is clearly heard. This yelp is not heard well at all in the Hogweed version. So, two sources exist from two excellent tapers at the same concert. This is similar to the time Dan Lampinski recorded Pink Floyd in Boston on June 18th, 1975. Also in that audience was Steve Hopkins and now both tapersí recordings of that show are available and both are equally outstanding.î

This Genesis performance is legendary for the technical difficulties experienced by the band. On the Lampinski source, the show begins with Peter Gabriel explaining how the performance has been delayed by rain water dripping onto the stage and causing an electrical hazard. Despite no fatal consequences, this rainwater still causes all sorts of problems for the synthesizer during the second half of the show. Undesired synthesizer noises begin during the Rael story and then can be heard during ëLilywhite Lilithí, the beginning of ëThe Waiting Roomí and ëThe Supernatural Anaesthetistí. Confirming this showís delay, DIME member glampins provides this added informationÖ..

ì(Here is) another little tidbit of information on this show from Dan Lampinski's brother. It was a miserable night in Providence with snow and then heavy rain. Peter Gabriel refers to the rain leaking through the roof directly over the stage. It was quite a delay until the rain stopped and the tarps were removed from the gear. What Mr. Gabriel doesn't tell you is that directly across the street from the theater was a Dunkin Donuts. Genesis arranged for dozens and dozens of donuts and gallons of coffee to be brought into the lobby, all for free because of the delay. Dan convinced me to go to this concert despite the fact that I had no idea what The Lamb was. I was mesmerized and to this day I still say it was the single best concert I have ever seen. Until now I had not heard this recording. In fact, I doubt Dan had ever heard it either. Enjoy!î

PRRP Staff

Notes from the Re-Master

Obviously, this remaster project begins with the torrented flac files from Dan Lampinskiís show. It is interesting that this recording captures part of the explanation for the delay from Gabriel which is not present on the Joe Maloney tape. Both tapers then started their recordings of the show at approximately the same time, halfway through the Rael Introduction. Maloneyís tape starts about two seconds earlier that Lampinskiís so those two seconds were added to Lampinskiís recording to make it more complete. The tape flips mentioned above occurred with uncanny synchronicity between the two tapers, leading to the initial (incorrect) assumption that the two were the same recording. Tape flips were repaired here so that the full, complete show is available.

The first significant step in the remastering was the speed correction. PRRP has remastered other Lampinski recordings and, despite their outstanding quality, they often run too slow or too fast. Here again, this recording was off speed and that was easily corrected. Tonality was re-balanced given the acoustic characteristics of the venue and the location of the taper. Clicks and pops were found and repaired easily. A number of points find undesirable noises coming from the synthesizer on stage. Gabriel references these at least once during the monologue but they can be heard intermittently during ëLilywhite Lilithí, ëThe Waiting Roomí and ëThe Supernatural Anaesthetistí. These were not altered because they were not tape flaws. Dynamic adjustments were made to enhance the recording and repair the effects of auto-record circuitry. Re-tracking was done using standard references, splitting the show just before the second Rael story, but without fadeout for a seamless listening experience.

Trades Allowed: Yes Traded From:

Reference #:

2493

Generation:

0

Lists:
Owned by Stuart Ferguson · Last Updated May 23, 2023


Genesis 12/08/74
Palace Theater, Providence, RI
Set I
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Fly On A Windshield
Broadway Melody Of 1974
Cuckoo Cocoon
In The Cage
The Grand Parade Of Lifeless Packaging
Back In N.Y.C.
Hairless Heart
Counting Out Time
Carpet Crawlers
The Chamber Of 32 Doors
Lilywhite Lilith
The Waiting Room
Anyway
Here Comes The Supernatural Anaesthetist The Lamia
Silent Sorrow In Empty Boats
The Arrival
The Colony Of Slippermen
Ravine
The Light Dies Down On Broadway
Riding The Scree
In The Rapids
It
Set II
The Musical Box
Watcher Of The Skies
Set III
 
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