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Set I
These are the Pre-Columbia Tapes
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #2 *****
Bob Dylan's home,
Hibbing, Minnesota
1958
01. Hey Little Richard
02. Buzz, Buzz, Buzz (Gray/Byrd)
03. Jenny, Jenny (Johnson/Penniman/Crewe)
04. Blue Moon (Lorenz Hart/Richard Rogers)
1, 3 Bob Dylan (vocal & piano), John Bucklen (vocal)
2 Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar), John Bucklen (vocal)
4 Bob Dylan and John Bucklen (vocals)
NOTES:
All songs fragments
The tape also contains discussions between Dylan and Bucklen
Bob and John Talk:
Dylan: This is Little Richard...(fakes wild crowd noises into microphone) ...Little Richard's got a lot of expression.
Bucklen: You think singing is just jumping around and screaming?
Dylan: You gotta have some kind of expression.
Bucklen: Johnny Cash has got expression.
Dylan: There's no expression. (sings in boring, slow and monotone voice): "I met her at a dance St. Paul Minnesota... I walk the line, because you're mine, because you're mine..."
Bucklen: You're doing it wrong, you're just -
Bucklen: What's the best kind of music?
Dylan: Rhythm and Blues.
Bucklen: State your reason in no less that twenty-five minutes.
Dylan: Ah, Rhythm and Blues you see is something that you really can't quite explain see. When you hear a song Rhythm and Blues - when you hear it's a good Rhythm and Blues song, chills go up your spine...
Bucklen: Whoa-o-o!
Dylan: When you hear a song like that. But when you hear a song like Johnny Cash, whadaya wanna do? You wanna leave, you wanna, you - when you hear a song like some good Rhythm and Blues song you wanna cry when you hear one of those songs.
After Jenny Take A Ride:
Bucklen: Listen, man you gotta to do it a little bit faster than that. I mean I'm trying to cut a fast record here, that's right ...
Dylan: I can't help it.
Bucklen: I know it ain't slow but it's not fast enough too.
Dylan: Whadaya talking about, man, that's plenty fast!
Bucklen: No, it isn't.
Dylan: That'll sell - that'll sell (clicks fingers) just like that - ten million in a week! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll! (plays first note on piano)
Bucklen: What are you trying to do man, coming in with 'weeelll' like that? I mean ....
Dylan: Well that's for the new song and I'm starting another one.
After Blue Moon:
Dylan: Yeah, ah, Ricky Nelson. Now Ricky Nelson's another one of these guys. See Ricky Nelson, Ricky Nelson -
Bucklen: Ricky Nelson is out of the question.
Dylan: Well he copies Elvis Presley! Yeaah, it's perfectly...
Bucklen: He can't do like Elvis Presley.
Dylan: Well he can't sing at all, Ricky Nelson. So we may as well forget him. See I mean - I mean, ya know when you hear music like The Diamonds. For instance The Diamonds are really cool, they're out on the street really popular, really record [?], you know. So they're popular big stars but where, where do they get all the songs? You know they get all their songs, they get all their songs from little groups. They copy all the little groups. Same thing with Elvis Presley. Elvis Presley, who did he copy? He copied Clyde McPhatter, he copied Little Richard, ...
Bucklen: Wait a minute, wait a minute!
Dylan: ...he copied the Drifters
Bucklen: Wait a minute, name, name, name four songs that Elvis Presley's copied from those, from those little groups.
Dylan: He copied all the Richard songs -
Bucklen: Like what? -
Dylan: "Rip It Up", "Long Tall Sally", "Ready Teddy", err ... what's the other one...
Bucklen: "Money Honey"?
Dylan: No, "Money Honey" he copied from Clyde McPhatter. He copied "I Was The One " - he copied that from the Coasters. He copied, ahhh, "I Got A Woman" from Ray Charles.
Bucklen: Er... listen, that song was written for him.
Broadcast in the program Highway 61 Revisited, the final part of the BBC 2 Arena TV series called Tales Or Rock 'n' Roll, May 8, 1993.
Mono TV recording, 5 minutes
The Home Of Karen Wallace
St. Paul, Minnesota
May 1960
01. Gotta Travel On (Paul Clayton - Larry Ehrlich - David Lazar - Tom Six)
02. Doney Gal (trad.)
03. Roving Gambler (trad.)
04. Go Down You Murderers (trad.)
05. Bay Of Mexico (trad.)
06. The Two Sisters (trad.)
07. Go Way From My Window (John Jacob Niles)
08. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
09. Go Tell It To The Mountain (trad.)
10. Fare Thee Well (trad.)
11. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
12. Saro Jane (trad.)
13. Take This Hammer (trad.)
14. Nobody Loves When You're Down And Out (J. Cox)
15. Great Historical Bum (Woody Guthrie)
16. Mary Ann (trad.)
17. Every Night When The Sun Goes In (trad.)
18. Sinner Man (trad.)
19. Delia (traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
20. Wop De Alamo (trad.)
21. Who's Gonna Shoe Your Pretty Little Feet? (trad.)
22. Abner Young (?)
23. 500 Miles (trad.)
24. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
25. One-Eyed Jacks
26. Columbus Stockade Blues (Woody Guthrie)
27. Payday At Coal Creek (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
NOTE: Tracks 9, 10, 19-21 not included on the circulating samples tape
REFERENCES:
If You Can Tell A Bigger Lie - On The 1960 St Paul Tape - article by Paul Loeber in Fourth Time Around #1 (1982)
The Continuing Story Of The St Paul 1960 Tape - article by Gavin Diddle in Fourth Time Around #2 (1983)
Private mono recording with many tracks cut, 30 minutes
The Home Of Bob Dylan
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Autumn 1960
01. Red Rosey Bush (trad.)
02. Johnny I Hardly Knew You (trad.)
03. Jesus Christ (Woody Guthrie)
04. Streets Of Glory (trad.)
05. K.C. Moan (1927 Memphis Jug Band)
06. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
07. I'm A Gambler (trad.)
08. Talking Columbia (Woody Guthrie)
09. Talking Merchant Marine (Woody Guthrie)
10. Talking Hugh Brown
11. Talking Lobbyist (?)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
BobTalk:
Oh that guy McKenzie. I like it. I'll do a couple of verses. Sing that whole file if you want me to do it. This is a Woody Guthrie song. (after Red Rosey Bush)
NOTES:
This recording has been circulating as the Minnesota Party Tape
Suggested name for last song is also Talking Inflation Blues
Private mono recording, 30 minutes
The home of Bob and Sid Gleason,
East Orange, New Jersey
February or March 1961
01. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
02. Jesus Met The Woman At The Well (trad.)
03. Gypsy Davey (trad., arr Woody Guthrie)
04. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
05. Trail Of The Buffalo (trad., arr Woody Guthrie)
06. Jesse James (trad.)
07. Car, Car (Woody Guthrie)
08. Southern Cannonball (R. Hall/Jimmie Rodgers)
09. Bring Me Back, My Blue-Eyed Boy (trad.)
10. Remember Me (Scott Wiseman)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
4 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
BobTalks:
Anybody got a capo in the house here ? I don't. Yeah I know but. Oh I. I don't know if I can do impression. This is really something. (after San Francisco Bay Blues)
One verse is all I learnt. (after Trail Of The Buffalo)
NOTES;
7, 8, 9 fragments only
Clinton Heylin dates this as early February, Sandy Gant as March 2
The circulating tape is known as The East Orange Tape
2-10 continuos recording
Mono recording, approximately 27 minutes altogether
Gerde's Folk City,
New York City, New York
Late September 1961
01. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
02. The Great Divide (Woody Guthrie)
03. See That My Grave Is Kept Clean (Blind Lemon Jefferson)
04. Ain't No More Cane (Huddie "Leadbelly" Leadbetter)
05. Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
06. He Was A Friend Of Mine
07. Pretty Boy Floyd (Woody Guthrie)
08. In The Pines (Huddie "Leadbelly" Leadbetter)
09. Sally Gal
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
1, 2 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
1, 2 Ramblin' Jack Elliott (guitar, shared vocal)
7 Jim Kweskin (guitar, shared vocal)
NOTE: Last 7 songs are NOT in general circulation
Mono PA recording
1-2: 10 minutes altogether
Cynthia Gooding's Apartment
New York City, New York
February or March 1962
01. Ballad Of Donald White
02. Wichita (Going To Louisiana) (trad.)
03. Acne (Eric von Schmidt)
04. Rocks And Gravel
05. Long Time Man (trad. arr. by Alan Lomax)
06. Ranger's Command (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (guitar & vocal)
3 unidentified musician (shared vocal)
4 unidentified musician (background vocal & percussion)
NOTE: This tape circulates as The Cynthia Gooding Tape
Mono recording, 25 minutes altogether
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #2 *****
The Home Of Karen Wallace
St. Paul, Minnesota
May 1960
01. Gotta Travel On (Paul Clayton - Larry Ehrlich - David Lazar - Tom Six)
02. Doney Gal (trad.)
03. Roving Gambler (trad.)
04. Go Down You Murderers (trad.)
05. Bay Of Mexico (trad.)
06. The Two Sisters (trad.)
07. Go Way From My Window (John Jacob Niles)
08. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
09. Go Tell It To The Mountain (trad.)
10. Fare Thee Well (trad.)
11. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
12. Saro Jane (trad.)
13. Take This Hammer (trad.)
14. Nobody Loves When You're Down And Out (J. Cox)
15. Great Historical Bum (Woody Guthrie)
16. Mary Ann (trad.)
17. Every Night When The Sun Goes In (trad.)
18. Sinner Man (trad.)
19. Delia (traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
20. Wop De Alamo (trad.)
21. Who's Gonna Shoe Your Pretty Little Feet? (trad.)
22. Abner Young (?)
23. 500 Miles (trad.)
24. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
25. One-Eyed Jacks
26. Columbus Stockade Blues (Woody Guthrie)
27. Payday At Coal Creek (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
NOTE: Tracks 9, 10, 19-21 not included on the circulating samples tape
REFERENCES:
* If You Can Tell A Bigger Lie - On The 1960 St Paul Tape - article by Paul Loeber in Fourth Time Around #1 (1982)
* The Continuing Story Of The St Paul 1960 Tape - article by Gavin Diddle in Fourth Time Around #2 (1983)
Private mono recording with many tracks cut / abrupt, 30 minutes
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #3 *****
Eve and Mac McKenzie's home,
New York City, New York
November 23, 1961
December 4, 1961
01. Hard Times In New York Town
02. Wayfaring Stranger (trad.)
03. (It Makes) A Long Time Man Feel Bad (trad.)
04. Lonesome Whistle Blues (Hank Williams - Jimmy Davies)
05. Worried Blues (Hally Wood)
06. Baby Of Mine (?)
07. Unidentified Instrumental
08. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (Eric von Schmidt)
09. Fixin' To Die (Bukka White)
10. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
11. You're No Good (Jesse Fuller)
12. House Of The Risin' Sun (trad.)
13. Unidentified Instrumental
14. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (guitar)
1-6, 8-12, Bob Dylan (vocal)
6, 7 Unidentified musician (12-string guitar)
6 Unidentified musician (shared vocal)
NOTES:
1-3, 5-7, 9, 14 are fragments
This tape together with DSN 131 has circulated as First McKenzie's Tape
Incomplete mono recording, 40 minutes including DSN 131
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #4 *****
Montowesi Hotel,
Branford, Connecticut
May 6, 1961
Indian Neck Folk Festival
01. Talking Columbia (Woody Guthrie)
02. Hangknot, Slipknot (Woody Guthrie)
03. Talking Fish Blues (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (vocal, guitar & harmonica)
BobTalk:
That was Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Columbia. This is Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Dustbowl. (starts) No this is Woody Guthrie's Slipknot. Hang about 9 or 6 hanging songs. This is the best one, Slipknot
Thank you here's another Woody Guthrie song. Anybody got a C harp ? C harp ? This is ... a Woody Guthrie song ... I don't know what it's, Talkin' Fisherman. You got to read between the lines
Mono recording, 16 minutes altogether
WNYC Radio Studio,
New York City, New York
October 29, 1961
01. Sally Girl (Woody Guthrie)
02. The Girl I Left Behind (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
1 Bob Dylan harmonica
BobTalk
Oscar Brand: November 4th, Saturday Bob Dylan will be singing at the Carnegie Chapter Hall. And that should be a very special occasion. Bob was born in Duluth, Minnesota. But Bob you weren't raised in Duluth were you ?
Oscar Brand: I was raised in Gallup, New Mexico.
Oscar Brand: Do you get many songs there ?
Oscar Brand: You get a lot of cowboy songs there. Indian songs. That vaudeville kind of stuff.
Oscar Brand: Where'd you get your carnival songs?
Oscar Brand: Uh, people in the carnival.
Oscar Brand: Do you travel with it or watch the carnival?
Oscar Brand: Travel the carnival when I was about 13 years old.
Oscar Brand: For how long?
Oscar Brand: All the way up till I was 19 every year off an on I'd join different carnivals.
Oscar Brand: Well I'd like to hear one of the kinds of music that you've been singing and I know you've been doing quite well, and I know you'll be singing at the Carnegie Chapter Hall. Do you wanna pick something out ?
Oscar Brand: Well I'll pick a carnival song that I learnt. Wrote. Do you wanna hear one of them?
Oscar Brand: Thank you Bob Dylan for Sally Gal and we'll expect you back tonight before the end of the tonight's Folk Song Festival.
I'm Oscar Brand and I'm here on WNYC New York. Now lets return to our guest this evening. His name is Bob Dylan and on November 4th he will be at Carnegie Chapter Hall in a very exciting concerts of songs that he's collected since his first days. When he was born in Minnesota, and then he went down to the southwest. He travelled around the country with carnivals and as we heard earlier he's collected a lot of many songs from many people Bob I know that that means when you travel that much that you hear a lot of songs. But doesn't it also means, mean that you forget a lot of songs that way?
Oscar Brand: Oh yeah. I learned, forgot quite a few I guess. An once I forgot 'em I usually heard the name of them. I looked 'em up in some book and learned 'em again.
Oscar Brand: Can you read music?
Oscar Brand: No I can't. But this here song's a good example. I learned it from a farmer in South Dakota. An err he played the autoharp. His name was Wilbur; live outside of Sioux Falls, when I was visiting people and him. Heard him do it an ...., I was looking through a book sometime saw the same song and remembered the way he did it. So this is the song. Plays The Girl I Left Behind>
Oscar Brand: Thank you very much Bob Dylan. And the very best of luck on your concert November 4th at Carnegie Chapter Hall. In which I know as your audience realises there'll be a lot of exciting material, new and beautifully presented. And thanks very much Israel Young for bringing Bob down and for sponsoring the concert he's gonna have too
Broadcast by WNYC in Oscar Brand's radio show Folksong Festival
Mono FM recording, 9 minutes altogether
Unknown Location,
New York City, New York
Late 1961
Interview conducted by Billy James
NOTES:
This is part of an interview recorded by Columbia Records. It was eventually published in New Musical Express, April 20, 1976
Reprinted in The Fiddler Now Upspoke, Volume 1, Desolation Row Promotions, page 1
Mono recording, 4 minutes altogether
WNBC Radio Studios,
New York City, New York
March 1963
Oscar Brand Show
01. Girl From The North Country
02. Only A Hobo
Bob Dylan (guitar, vocal & harmonica).
NOTE: Includes a short chat between Bob Dylan and Oscar Brand
BobTalk:
Thank you Oscar and this one's called North Country Girl and it's dedicated to all the north country girls
Oscar Brand: "Now, once again Mr. Bob Dylan and another original called Only A Hobo. A little background Bob?"
Bob Dylan: Well I guess some people go out in the streets every day you know. They look into their garage and they see their car. Other people can go out in the street and see their lilac trees. And other people can go out to their porch and water their plants. And err you can also go out in the street and see a hobo
Oscar Brand: "Thanks for coming, Bob."
Bob Dylan: Thanks for inviting me and I also wanna take the opportunity to express my feelings. Thank you for myself and all my friends who where at your house the other night
Broadcast in the program "The World Of Folk Music, Starring Oscar Brand", May 1963
Released on The World Of Folk Music, Starring Oscar Brand, Radio Station Disc, XGPB-508, May 1963
NBC Studios, Los Angeles, California
February 25, 1964
Steve Allen Show
01. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll
Bob Dylan (guitar and vocal)
NOTE: Includes a chat between Bob Dylan and Steve Allen
Broadcast by NBC-TV
Mono TV broadcast, 13 minutes altogether
WABC TV Studios, New York City, New York
February 17, 1965
Les Crane Show.
01. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
02. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Bob Dylan (vocal & acoustic guitar)
Bruce Langhorne (electric guitar)
NOTES:
The tape includes chats between Bob Dylan and Les Crane
Broadcast live by WABC TV in New York City
Mono TV broadcast, 32 minutes
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #4 *****
OMITTED (officially released)
The Home of Dave Whittaker,
Minneapolis, Minnesota
December 22, 1961
01. Candy Man (trad. arr. by Revd. Gary Davis)
02. Baby Please Don't Go (Big Joe Williams)
03. Hard Times In New York Town
04. Stealin', Stealin' (trad. arr. Memphis Jug Band)
05. Poor Lazarus (trad.)
06. I Ain't Got No Home (Woody Guthrie)
07. It's Hard To Be Blind (trad.)
08. Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
09. Man Of Constant Sorrow (trad. arr. Bob Dylan)
10. Story Of East Orange
11. Naomi Wise (trad.)
12. Wade In The Water (trad.)
13. I Was Young When I Left Home
14. In The Evening (Brownie McGhee)
15. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (Eric von Schmidt)
16. Sally Girl
17. Gospel Plow (trad. arr. Bob Dylan)
18. Long John (trad.)
19. Cocaine (trad. arr. Revd. Gary Davies)
20. VD Blues (Woody Guthrie)
21. VD Waltz (Woody Guthrie)
22. VD City (Woody Guthrie)
23. VD Gunner's Blues (Woody Guthrie)
24. See That My Grave Is Kept Clean (Blind Lemon Jefferson)
25. Ramblin' Round (Woody Guthrie)
26. Black Cross (Lord Buckley)
Bob Dylan (guitar & vocal)
5-7, 9, 14-18 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
BobTalk:
Hold the bottle in here. OK wait I gotta fix this, he man you gotta see some pictures of me. I'm not kidding yeah at Whittakers. I look like Marlon Bran.. James Dean or somebody. You gotta see. Like two of this blue turtle neck sweater on. All kinds of pictures of me, without a guitar. Or else you can just see the top of it. (Dave Glover talks off mike) Ha ha I know what
you mean. (before Black Cross)
I sort of made it up on a train. It must be good for somebody this here song I know it's good for somebody. If it ain't for me, for somebody. I just talked about it. (after Wade In The Water).
NOTES:
This has been circulating as Minnesota Hotel Tape
Recorded by Tony Glover
2 Baby Please Don't Go (Big Joe Williams)
3 Hard Times In New York Town
6 I Ain't Got No Home (Woody Guthrie)
8 Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
10 Story Of East Orange
12 Wade In The Water (trad.)
13 I Was Young When I Left Home
Part of 2 (56 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
3 released on The Bootleg Series (Rare & Unreleased) 1961-1991, Volume 1, Columbia 468 086 2, March 26, 1991
Part of 3 (19 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 6 (45 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 8 (65 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 10 (21 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 12 (39 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
12 released on Literary Voices In Rare Recordings, Bakhåll BAKCD 9403, March, 1994
12 released on Live 1961-2000 - Thirty-nine years of great concert performances, SME Records SRCS 2438, February 28, 2001
13 released on bonus disc on the limited edition of Love And Theft, Columbia CK 86076, September 11, 2001
Mono recording, 75 minutes altogether
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #2 *****
Bob Dylan's home,
Hibbing, Minnesota
1958
01. Hey Little Richard
02. Buzz, Buzz, Buzz (Gray/Byrd)
03. Jenny, Jenny (Johnson/Penniman/Crewe)
04. Blue Moon (Lorenz Hart/Richard Rogers)
1, 3 Bob Dylan (vocal & piano), John Bucklen (vocal)
2 Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar), John Bucklen (vocal)
4 Bob Dylan and John Bucklen (vocals)
NOTES:
All songs fragments
The tape also contains discussions between Dylan and Bucklen
Bob and John Talk:
Dylan: This is Little Richard...(fakes wild crowd noises into microphone) ...Little Richard's got a lot of expression.
Bucklen: You think singing is just jumping around and screaming?
Dylan: You gotta have some kind of expression.
Bucklen: Johnny Cash has got expression.
Dylan: There's no expression. (sings in boring, slow and monotone voice): "I met her at a dance St. Paul Minnesota... I walk the line, because you're mine, because you're mine..."
Bucklen: You're doing it wrong, you're just -
Bucklen: What's the best kind of music?
Dylan: Rhythm and Blues.
Bucklen: State your reason in no less that twenty-five minutes.
Dylan: Ah, Rhythm and Blues you see is something that you really can't quite explain see. When you hear a song Rhythm and Blues - when you hear it's a good Rhythm and Blues song, chills go up your spine...
Bucklen: Whoa-o-o!
Dylan: When you hear a song like that. But when you hear a song like Johnny Cash, whadaya wanna do? You wanna leave, you wanna, you - when you hear a song like some good Rhythm and Blues song you wanna cry when you hear one of those songs.
After Jenny Take A Ride:
Bucklen: Listen, man you gotta to do it a little bit faster than that. I mean I'm trying to cut a fast record here, that's right ...
Dylan: I can't help it.
Bucklen: I know it ain't slow but it's not fast enough too.
Dylan: Whadaya talking about, man, that's plenty fast!
Bucklen: No, it isn't.
Dylan: That'll sell - that'll sell (clicks fingers) just like that - ten million in a week! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelllll! (plays first note on piano)
Bucklen: What are you trying to do man, coming in with 'weeelll' like that? I mean ....
Dylan: Well that's for the new song and I'm starting another one.
After Blue Moon:
Dylan: Yeah, ah, Ricky Nelson. Now Ricky Nelson's another one of these guys. See Ricky Nelson, Ricky Nelson -
Bucklen: Ricky Nelson is out of the question.
Dylan: Well he copies Elvis Presley! Yeaah, it's perfectly...
Bucklen: He can't do like Elvis Presley.
Dylan: Well he can't sing at all, Ricky Nelson. So we may as well forget him. See I mean - I mean, ya know when you hear music like The Diamonds. For instance The Diamonds are really cool, they're out on the street really popular, really record [?], you know. So they're popular big stars but where, where do they get all the songs? You know they get all their songs, they get all their songs from little groups. They copy all the little groups. Same thing with Elvis Presley. Elvis Presley, who did he copy? He copied Clyde McPhatter, he copied Little Richard, ...
Bucklen: Wait a minute, wait a minute!
Dylan: ...he copied the Drifters
Bucklen: Wait a minute, name, name, name four songs that Elvis Presley's copied from those, from those little groups.
Dylan: He copied all the Richard songs -
Bucklen: Like what? -
Dylan: "Rip It Up", "Long Tall Sally", "Ready Teddy", err ... what's the other one...
Bucklen: "Money Honey"?
Dylan: No, "Money Honey" he copied from Clyde McPhatter. He copied "I Was The One " - he copied that from the Coasters. He copied, ahhh, "I Got A Woman" from Ray Charles.
Bucklen: Er... listen, that song was written for him.
Broadcast in the program Highway 61 Revisited, the final part of the BBC 2 Arena TV series called Tales Or Rock 'n' Roll, May 8, 1993.
Mono TV recording, 5 minutes
The Home Of Karen Wallace
St. Paul, Minnesota
May 1960
01. Gotta Travel On (Paul Clayton - Larry Ehrlich - David Lazar - Tom Six)
02. Doney Gal (trad.)
03. Roving Gambler (trad.)
04. Go Down You Murderers (trad.)
05. Bay Of Mexico (trad.)
06. The Two Sisters (trad.)
07. Go Way From My Window (John Jacob Niles)
08. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
09. Go Tell It To The Mountain (trad.)
10. Fare Thee Well (trad.)
11. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
12. Saro Jane (trad.)
13. Take This Hammer (trad.)
14. Nobody Loves When You're Down And Out (J. Cox)
15. Great Historical Bum (Woody Guthrie)
16. Mary Ann (trad.)
17. Every Night When The Sun Goes In (trad.)
18. Sinner Man (trad.)
19. Delia (traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
20. Wop De Alamo (trad.)
21. Who's Gonna Shoe Your Pretty Little Feet? (trad.)
22. Abner Young (?)
23. 500 Miles (trad.)
24. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
25. One-Eyed Jacks
26. Columbus Stockade Blues (Woody Guthrie)
27. Payday At Coal Creek (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
NOTE: Tracks 9, 10, 19-21 not included on the circulating samples tape
REFERENCES:
If You Can Tell A Bigger Lie - On The 1960 St Paul Tape - article by Paul Loeber in Fourth Time Around #1 (1982)
The Continuing Story Of The St Paul 1960 Tape - article by Gavin Diddle in Fourth Time Around #2 (1983)
Private mono recording with many tracks cut, 30 minutes
The Home Of Bob Dylan
Minneapolis, Minnesota
Autumn 1960
01. Red Rosey Bush (trad.)
02. Johnny I Hardly Knew You (trad.)
03. Jesus Christ (Woody Guthrie)
04. Streets Of Glory (trad.)
05. K.C. Moan (1927 Memphis Jug Band)
06. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
07. I'm A Gambler (trad.)
08. Talking Columbia (Woody Guthrie)
09. Talking Merchant Marine (Woody Guthrie)
10. Talking Hugh Brown
11. Talking Lobbyist (?)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
BobTalk:
Oh that guy McKenzie. I like it. I'll do a couple of verses. Sing that whole file if you want me to do it. This is a Woody Guthrie song. (after Red Rosey Bush)
NOTES:
This recording has been circulating as the Minnesota Party Tape
Suggested name for last song is also Talking Inflation Blues
Private mono recording, 30 minutes
The home of Bob and Sid Gleason,
East Orange, New Jersey
February or March 1961
01. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
02. Jesus Met The Woman At The Well (trad.)
03. Gypsy Davey (trad., arr Woody Guthrie)
04. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
05. Trail Of The Buffalo (trad., arr Woody Guthrie)
06. Jesse James (trad.)
07. Car, Car (Woody Guthrie)
08. Southern Cannonball (R. Hall/Jimmie Rodgers)
09. Bring Me Back, My Blue-Eyed Boy (trad.)
10. Remember Me (Scott Wiseman)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
4 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
BobTalks:
Anybody got a capo in the house here ? I don't. Yeah I know but. Oh I. I don't know if I can do impression. This is really something. (after San Francisco Bay Blues)
One verse is all I learnt. (after Trail Of The Buffalo)
NOTES;
7, 8, 9 fragments only
Clinton Heylin dates this as early February, Sandy Gant as March 2
The circulating tape is known as The East Orange Tape
2-10 continuos recording
Mono recording, approximately 27 minutes altogether
Gerde's Folk City,
New York City, New York
Late September 1961
01. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
02. The Great Divide (Woody Guthrie)
03. See That My Grave Is Kept Clean (Blind Lemon Jefferson)
04. Ain't No More Cane (Huddie "Leadbelly" Leadbetter)
05. Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
06. He Was A Friend Of Mine
07. Pretty Boy Floyd (Woody Guthrie)
08. In The Pines (Huddie "Leadbelly" Leadbetter)
09. Sally Gal
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
1, 2 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
1, 2 Ramblin' Jack Elliott (guitar, shared vocal)
7 Jim Kweskin (guitar, shared vocal)
NOTE: Last 7 songs are NOT in general circulation
Mono PA recording
1-2: 10 minutes altogether
Cynthia Gooding's Apartment
New York City, New York
February or March 1962
01. Ballad Of Donald White
02. Wichita (Going To Louisiana) (trad.)
03. Acne (Eric von Schmidt)
04. Rocks And Gravel
05. Long Time Man (trad. arr. by Alan Lomax)
06. Ranger's Command (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (guitar & vocal)
3 unidentified musician (shared vocal)
4 unidentified musician (background vocal & percussion)
NOTE: This tape circulates as The Cynthia Gooding Tape
Mono recording, 25 minutes altogether
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #2 *****
The Home Of Karen Wallace
St. Paul, Minnesota
May 1960
01. Gotta Travel On (Paul Clayton - Larry Ehrlich - David Lazar - Tom Six)
02. Doney Gal (trad.)
03. Roving Gambler (trad.)
04. Go Down You Murderers (trad.)
05. Bay Of Mexico (trad.)
06. The Two Sisters (trad.)
07. Go Way From My Window (John Jacob Niles)
08. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
09. Go Tell It To The Mountain (trad.)
10. Fare Thee Well (trad.)
11. Pastures Of Plenty (Woody Guthrie)
12. Saro Jane (trad.)
13. Take This Hammer (trad.)
14. Nobody Loves When You're Down And Out (J. Cox)
15. Great Historical Bum (Woody Guthrie)
16. Mary Ann (trad.)
17. Every Night When The Sun Goes In (trad.)
18. Sinner Man (trad.)
19. Delia (traditional, arranged by Bob Dylan)
20. Wop De Alamo (trad.)
21. Who's Gonna Shoe Your Pretty Little Feet? (trad.)
22. Abner Young (?)
23. 500 Miles (trad.)
24. Blues Yodel No. 8 (Jimmie Rodgers - G. Vaughan)
25. One-Eyed Jacks
26. Columbus Stockade Blues (Woody Guthrie)
27. Payday At Coal Creek (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
NOTE: Tracks 9, 10, 19-21 not included on the circulating samples tape
REFERENCES:
* If You Can Tell A Bigger Lie - On The 1960 St Paul Tape - article by Paul Loeber in Fourth Time Around #1 (1982)
* The Continuing Story Of The St Paul 1960 Tape - article by Gavin Diddle in Fourth Time Around #2 (1983)
Private mono recording with many tracks cut / abrupt, 30 minutes
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #3 *****
Eve and Mac McKenzie's home,
New York City, New York
November 23, 1961
December 4, 1961
01. Hard Times In New York Town
02. Wayfaring Stranger (trad.)
03. (It Makes) A Long Time Man Feel Bad (trad.)
04. Lonesome Whistle Blues (Hank Williams - Jimmy Davies)
05. Worried Blues (Hally Wood)
06. Baby Of Mine (?)
07. Unidentified Instrumental
08. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (Eric von Schmidt)
09. Fixin' To Die (Bukka White)
10. San Francisco Bay Blues (Jesse Fuller)
11. You're No Good (Jesse Fuller)
12. House Of The Risin' Sun (trad.)
13. Unidentified Instrumental
14. This Land Is Your Land (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (guitar)
1-6, 8-12, Bob Dylan (vocal)
6, 7 Unidentified musician (12-string guitar)
6 Unidentified musician (shared vocal)
NOTES:
1-3, 5-7, 9, 14 are fragments
This tape together with DSN 131 has circulated as First McKenzie's Tape
Incomplete mono recording, 40 minutes including DSN 131
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #4 *****
Montowesi Hotel,
Branford, Connecticut
May 6, 1961
Indian Neck Folk Festival
01. Talking Columbia (Woody Guthrie)
02. Hangknot, Slipknot (Woody Guthrie)
03. Talking Fish Blues (Woody Guthrie)
Bob Dylan (vocal, guitar & harmonica)
BobTalk:
That was Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Columbia. This is Woody Guthrie's Talkin' Dustbowl. (starts) No this is Woody Guthrie's Slipknot. Hang about 9 or 6 hanging songs. This is the best one, Slipknot
Thank you here's another Woody Guthrie song. Anybody got a C harp ? C harp ? This is ... a Woody Guthrie song ... I don't know what it's, Talkin' Fisherman. You got to read between the lines
Mono recording, 16 minutes altogether
WNYC Radio Studio,
New York City, New York
October 29, 1961
01. Sally Girl (Woody Guthrie)
02. The Girl I Left Behind (trad.)
Bob Dylan (vocal & guitar)
1 Bob Dylan harmonica
BobTalk
Oscar Brand: November 4th, Saturday Bob Dylan will be singing at the Carnegie Chapter Hall. And that should be a very special occasion. Bob was born in Duluth, Minnesota. But Bob you weren't raised in Duluth were you ?
Oscar Brand: I was raised in Gallup, New Mexico.
Oscar Brand: Do you get many songs there ?
Oscar Brand: You get a lot of cowboy songs there. Indian songs. That vaudeville kind of stuff.
Oscar Brand: Where'd you get your carnival songs?
Oscar Brand: Uh, people in the carnival.
Oscar Brand: Do you travel with it or watch the carnival?
Oscar Brand: Travel the carnival when I was about 13 years old.
Oscar Brand: For how long?
Oscar Brand: All the way up till I was 19 every year off an on I'd join different carnivals.
Oscar Brand: Well I'd like to hear one of the kinds of music that you've been singing and I know you've been doing quite well, and I know you'll be singing at the Carnegie Chapter Hall. Do you wanna pick something out ?
Oscar Brand: Well I'll pick a carnival song that I learnt. Wrote. Do you wanna hear one of them?
Oscar Brand: Thank you Bob Dylan for Sally Gal and we'll expect you back tonight before the end of the tonight's Folk Song Festival.
I'm Oscar Brand and I'm here on WNYC New York. Now lets return to our guest this evening. His name is Bob Dylan and on November 4th he will be at Carnegie Chapter Hall in a very exciting concerts of songs that he's collected since his first days. When he was born in Minnesota, and then he went down to the southwest. He travelled around the country with carnivals and as we heard earlier he's collected a lot of many songs from many people Bob I know that that means when you travel that much that you hear a lot of songs. But doesn't it also means, mean that you forget a lot of songs that way?
Oscar Brand: Oh yeah. I learned, forgot quite a few I guess. An once I forgot 'em I usually heard the name of them. I looked 'em up in some book and learned 'em again.
Oscar Brand: Can you read music?
Oscar Brand: No I can't. But this here song's a good example. I learned it from a farmer in South Dakota. An err he played the autoharp. His name was Wilbur; live outside of Sioux Falls, when I was visiting people and him. Heard him do it an ...., I was looking through a book sometime saw the same song and remembered the way he did it. So this is the song. Plays The Girl I Left Behind>
Oscar Brand: Thank you very much Bob Dylan. And the very best of luck on your concert November 4th at Carnegie Chapter Hall. In which I know as your audience realises there'll be a lot of exciting material, new and beautifully presented. And thanks very much Israel Young for bringing Bob down and for sponsoring the concert he's gonna have too
Broadcast by WNYC in Oscar Brand's radio show Folksong Festival
Mono FM recording, 9 minutes altogether
Unknown Location,
New York City, New York
Late 1961
Interview conducted by Billy James
NOTES:
This is part of an interview recorded by Columbia Records. It was eventually published in New Musical Express, April 20, 1976
Reprinted in The Fiddler Now Upspoke, Volume 1, Desolation Row Promotions, page 1
Mono recording, 4 minutes altogether
WNBC Radio Studios,
New York City, New York
March 1963
Oscar Brand Show
01. Girl From The North Country
02. Only A Hobo
Bob Dylan (guitar, vocal & harmonica).
NOTE: Includes a short chat between Bob Dylan and Oscar Brand
BobTalk:
Thank you Oscar and this one's called North Country Girl and it's dedicated to all the north country girls
Oscar Brand: "Now, once again Mr. Bob Dylan and another original called Only A Hobo. A little background Bob?"
Bob Dylan: Well I guess some people go out in the streets every day you know. They look into their garage and they see their car. Other people can go out in the street and see their lilac trees. And other people can go out to their porch and water their plants. And err you can also go out in the street and see a hobo
Oscar Brand: "Thanks for coming, Bob."
Bob Dylan: Thanks for inviting me and I also wanna take the opportunity to express my feelings. Thank you for myself and all my friends who where at your house the other night
Broadcast in the program "The World Of Folk Music, Starring Oscar Brand", May 1963
Released on The World Of Folk Music, Starring Oscar Brand, Radio Station Disc, XGPB-508, May 1963
NBC Studios, Los Angeles, California
February 25, 1964
Steve Allen Show
01. The Lonesome Death Of Hattie Carroll
Bob Dylan (guitar and vocal)
NOTE: Includes a chat between Bob Dylan and Steve Allen
Broadcast by NBC-TV
Mono TV broadcast, 13 minutes altogether
WABC TV Studios, New York City, New York
February 17, 1965
Les Crane Show.
01. It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
02. It's Alright, Ma (I'm Only Bleeding)
Bob Dylan (vocal & acoustic guitar)
Bruce Langhorne (electric guitar)
NOTES:
The tape includes chats between Bob Dylan and Les Crane
Broadcast live by WABC TV in New York City
Mono TV broadcast, 32 minutes
***** Pre-Columbia Volume #4 *****
OMITTED (officially released)
The Home of Dave Whittaker,
Minneapolis, Minnesota
December 22, 1961
01. Candy Man (trad. arr. by Revd. Gary Davis)
02. Baby Please Don't Go (Big Joe Williams)
03. Hard Times In New York Town
04. Stealin', Stealin' (trad. arr. Memphis Jug Band)
05. Poor Lazarus (trad.)
06. I Ain't Got No Home (Woody Guthrie)
07. It's Hard To Be Blind (trad.)
08. Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
09. Man Of Constant Sorrow (trad. arr. Bob Dylan)
10. Story Of East Orange
11. Naomi Wise (trad.)
12. Wade In The Water (trad.)
13. I Was Young When I Left Home
14. In The Evening (Brownie McGhee)
15. Baby Let Me Follow You Down (Eric von Schmidt)
16. Sally Girl
17. Gospel Plow (trad. arr. Bob Dylan)
18. Long John (trad.)
19. Cocaine (trad. arr. Revd. Gary Davies)
20. VD Blues (Woody Guthrie)
21. VD Waltz (Woody Guthrie)
22. VD City (Woody Guthrie)
23. VD Gunner's Blues (Woody Guthrie)
24. See That My Grave Is Kept Clean (Blind Lemon Jefferson)
25. Ramblin' Round (Woody Guthrie)
26. Black Cross (Lord Buckley)
Bob Dylan (guitar & vocal)
5-7, 9, 14-18 Bob Dylan (harmonica)
BobTalk:
Hold the bottle in here. OK wait I gotta fix this, he man you gotta see some pictures of me. I'm not kidding yeah at Whittakers. I look like Marlon Bran.. James Dean or somebody. You gotta see. Like two of this blue turtle neck sweater on. All kinds of pictures of me, without a guitar. Or else you can just see the top of it. (Dave Glover talks off mike) Ha ha I know what
you mean. (before Black Cross)
I sort of made it up on a train. It must be good for somebody this here song I know it's good for somebody. If it ain't for me, for somebody. I just talked about it. (after Wade In The Water).
NOTES:
This has been circulating as Minnesota Hotel Tape
Recorded by Tony Glover
2 Baby Please Don't Go (Big Joe Williams)
3 Hard Times In New York Town
6 I Ain't Got No Home (Woody Guthrie)
8 Dink's Song (trad. arr. by John & Alan Lomax)
10 Story Of East Orange
12 Wade In The Water (trad.)
13 I Was Young When I Left Home
Part of 2 (56 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
3 released on The Bootleg Series (Rare & Unreleased) 1961-1991, Volume 1, Columbia 468 086 2, March 26, 1991
Part of 3 (19 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 6 (45 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 8 (65 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 10 (21 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
Part of 12 (39 seconds) released on Interactive Music CD-ROM Highway 61 Interactive, Columbia/Graphix Zone CDAC 085700, February 1995
12 released on Literary Voices In Rare Recordings, Bakhåll BAKCD 9403, March, 1994
12 released on Live 1961-2000 - Thirty-nine years of great concert performances, SME Records SRCS 2438, February 28, 2001
13 released on bonus disc on the limited edition of Love And Theft, Columbia CK 86076, September 11, 2001
Mono recording, 75 minutes altogether
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