Grateful Dead 05/21/74
Edmundson Pavilion, University Of Washington, Seattle, WA
Source Summary
MSR> C> Dats> CD> EAC> SHN> WAV> Samplitude2496 (shn id 2597) patched with AudMC > WAV > SHN (10150) via Charles Wier
GRATEFUL DEAD
Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
5/21/74

SBD (shnid=2597) patched with AUD (shnid=10150)

DISC ONE                            64:47
set one-a:
01 Me And My Uncle                   3:15
02 Brown Eyed Women                  5:54
03 Beat It On Down The Line          4:02
04 Deal                              5:06
05 Mexicali Blues                    4:31
06 It Must've Been The Roses         6:27
07 The Race Is On                    3:13
08 Scarlet Begonias                  6:36
09 El Paso                           5:26
10 Row Jimmy                         9:13
11 Money Money                       5:01
12 Ship Of Fools                     6:02   1/

total time: 56:14

DISC TWO                            69:10
set one-end:
01 Weather Report Suite Prelude >    1:08
02 Weather Report Suite Part One >   5:03
03 Let It Grow >                    10:50
04 China Doll                        5:43
set two-a:
05 Playin' In The Band              46:27

total time: 69:16

DISC THREE                          62:43
set two-end:
01 U.S. Blues                        6:55
02 Big River                         4:53   2/
03 Stella Blue (aud)                 8:23   3/
04 Around And Around (aud)           5:10   3/
05 Eyes Of The World >              13:49   4/
06 Wharf Rat >                       9:43
07 Sugar Magnolia                    9:47
encore:
08 /Johnny B. Goode                  4:02

total time:  61:23

SBD SOurce (shnid=2597)
MSR>C>Dats>CD>EAC>SHN>.WAV>Samplitude2496: retracked, normalized (added +1.8 dB) > SHN, CD.  Playin' has no Cassette gen, and is patched w/26 sec of AUD at reel flip.

AUD Patch source (shnid=10150)
AudMC > WAV > SHN
Sony ECM18N mics > Sony 152SD deck, recorded by Pat Lee, hand held mics in right balcony

Patches SHN > WAV > CE Pro (patching) > sector boundary correction (CE Pro & shntool v1.2.3) > SHN V3 encoding (shntool) by Charles Wier

SBEs fixed manually and with shntool, as the crowd is cut between most songs on both the SBD and AUD master.  Transitions are smooth, but not continual due to missing crowd.  Minor cut at beginning of JBG also cut on AUD and could not be patched.
1/  patch beginning ~0:13.8 w/ aud; 0:12.6 of silence removed from end
2/  trim silence from end
3/  patch w/ aud; -2 dB to R ch & trim/fade crowd
4/  10 dB boost to R ch fadein for 1st 5 secs (barely detectable)

Disc 1
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     3:14.67      34379228     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
     5:53.58      62405660     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
     4:02.36      42773516     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
     5:05.65      53954924     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
     4:30.56      47759756     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
     6:26.71      68257436     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
     3:12.57      34002908     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
     6:35.71      69845036     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
     5:26.30      57577004     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
     9:13.30      97619804     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
     5:01.12      53124668     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
     6:02.16      63894476     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
    64:46.44        653.83 MB                     (totals for 12 files, 0.5578 overall compression ratio)
Disc 2
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     1:08.12      12023468     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
     5:02.52      53395148     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
    10:49.43     114584780     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
     5:42.52      60451148     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
    46:26.55     491579804     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
    69:09.64        698.12 MB                     (totals for 5 files, 0.5837 overall compression ratio)
Disc 3
    length     expanded size   cdr  WAVE  probs   filename
     6:55.03      73213100     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
     4:53.15      51720524     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
     8:22.71      88719836     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
     5:10.17      54724028     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
    13:49.29     146303852     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
     9:43.29     102909452     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
     9:46.51     103490396     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
     4:02.27      42752348     ---   --    -xx    gd74-05-21d3t08.shn
    62:43.17        633.08 MB                     (totals for 8 files, 0.5986 overall compression ratio)
Total
   196:39.50       1985.04 MB                     (totals for 25 files, 0.5799 overall compression ratio)
b33b3a5955d05787aee78eb5085d726b *gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
7083c1179f2ea09fa02cc577708feab2 *gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
f5e8343ac0aad1020ad8488b92269057 *gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
8b38298c7a6d38b5eb717fdb3ce576f7 *gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
3e4a4ec8dbc662fb2d5f730cff65d205 *gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
8e85eac6cd8dd7ce4b079066e04805b1 *gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
6e0a4688ae1c8f315be0a9395454f4f3 *gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
d0c7f3e0e5ec24ff9eef548a4dee2ac1 *gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
42a60d637b5aeb46fdff071b92d2e386 *gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
9aaa13e582df8d53df6c3d92267e709e *gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
8e2a86bceac2c4975f1e881f8539cfe5 *gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
14a26cf8eb230c75bf318b8823fd55d1 *gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
3e2748870aedad0acd17abcfd1b21fed *gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
61bca9477623e3b06e0efcece67384c0 *gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
3f866a98039bc92e16a4db7171543a85 *gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
d7eb4b3d905feeb224cdfec0dcf3df4c *gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
5eb7a5c462a501430f2a9ded4b97b69f *gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
f435603ea8e4cabc82ea4da6fdf0f931 *gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
50e4c266b4392729c8d477053a6f6fbc *gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
8a504d8a522deb0751b905a91d7fd26c *gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
2fca036fa913d602dc1bac50fb98caff *gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
529d2e5baa6eeeed3e65adbd4d397df0 *gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
9ebf63c769b15d62654e9075b1a8b1a7 *gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
851899c0e4a77ed51e7363af4a1a6104 *gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
3471200e1f5b05bd6208d9587938f534 *gd74-05-21d3t08.shn
st5
e697b2f30e35a071d674d59c57125e68 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
b8375fe0d424db5a0a4bcfb13303f7ef [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
9a5bfd4befd57d7a665bce3056c18481 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
8da1e5d2cf7c405e79f035f5207068a8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
fc05dc298d7a1909dd74bef44acf3dbc [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
9b0d7cbdb5b366fe911c39106d5d9312 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
26878c1acc6c613ac20d1ffab53a31a0 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
23ed31bf968c5f5e6deaa09bedbf300c [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
09c72d8eb2caed490a352247c7a6156f [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
72c4fc69b92e149efc0e61ff0eb1dd1b [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
46cd54708b4afb3eb5eff36a4518e252 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
285e716a3b9a2c60207d80f938071055 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
0bbdd7731b6e4d4f66052caea69b5359 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
601f39ba1d8355e397dd8b3b5355567a [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
eff5ec44ab47e15750508b26df8a87d4 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
4f4ef9edf2a19226bf825c54996ac13d [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
efb6c26a064609b2783fb801ec77cbb3 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
638002533e978cce9e34d60c99bc4a2c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
a1e7d31fb89644e46f55cdb40a62c92a [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
db321c6f4fa912b6904cd06d19c77af6 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
d46b050e90147f60b15da2a9232cc6cf [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
6337a37bf0354b2f83b7137ebf503511 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
d6c37de6ec80853ef588076a9d6b985c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
7efc61167420488c08da7e7c8c0575d8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
cfb29bc1a026adf5e1f7e0c8f5a3a14f [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t08.shn

Comments
Other Sources (comments)
S:MR > cassette > DAT > CD... (4) MSR> C> Dats> CD> EAC> SHN>... (4) AudMC > WAV > SHN Sony... (2) flac16 ; Matrix 2 Source... (0) DTS Audio 5.1 ; SBD ( shn... (0) flac16 ; Sony ECM18N mics... (0) DVD-VA ; (Video Audio) 2... (0) flac16 ; Recording Info:... (0) flac24 ; Recording Info:... (0) flac16 ; Matrix by Hunter... (0) flac16 ; Updated source:... (0) flac16/48khz Source... (0) flac24/96khz Source... (0)
Date User Comment
11/02/2005 A Dude I was looking at this show at Archive.org and found this comment on this shnid: " January 12, 2005
Reviewer: oceantree
Subject: get the other source
Only worry about Stella and Aroundx2 from this source of this show, as they are missing on the other SB source. The other SB has much better sound quality."

This seemed amazing to me, since the other SB is 2597 that was used for this shn set.

So, I compared the two several times, and if you remove the "much", he is indeed correct.

Either Mr. Wier did not disclose NR or other processing or steps not listed here, or else CEPro adds a slight veiling.

I have to conclude that the various housekeeping done, were not worth the overall cost in quality.
11/03/2005 Charles Wier Sorry, Dude, but the mind is a terrible thing to waste. All SBD tracks, except d1t12 & d3t02-5, for which fixes were detailed in the text file, and d2t05, d3t01, d3t05 & d3t08, for which SBEs were fixed, are the EXACT same audio files as for shnid2597. The [shntool] md5 fingerprint, which is the checksum for the audio data only, follows, and is identical to the other seed for d1t01-11 & d2t01-4. The files which differ only by the SBE fixes were compared using EAC's Compare WAVs tool and are identical except at the ends where the samples were moved.

e697b2f30e35a071d674d59c57125e68 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t01.shn
b8375fe0d424db5a0a4bcfb13303f7ef [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t02.shn
9a5bfd4befd57d7a665bce3056c18481 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t03.shn
8da1e5d2cf7c405e79f035f5207068a8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t04.shn
fc05dc298d7a1909dd74bef44acf3dbc [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t05.shn
9b0d7cbdb5b366fe911c39106d5d9312 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t06.shn
26878c1acc6c613ac20d1ffab53a31a0 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t07.shn
23ed31bf968c5f5e6deaa09bedbf300c [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t08.shn
09c72d8eb2caed490a352247c7a6156f [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t09.shn
72c4fc69b92e149efc0e61ff0eb1dd1b [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t10.shn
46cd54708b4afb3eb5eff36a4518e252 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t11.shn
285e716a3b9a2c60207d80f938071055 [shntool] gd74-05-21d1t12.shn
0bbdd7731b6e4d4f66052caea69b5359 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t01.shn
601f39ba1d8355e397dd8b3b5355567a [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t02.shn
eff5ec44ab47e15750508b26df8a87d4 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t03.shn
4f4ef9edf2a19226bf825c54996ac13d [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t04.shn
efb6c26a064609b2783fb801ec77cbb3 [shntool] gd74-05-21d2t05.shn
638002533e978cce9e34d60c99bc4a2c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t01.shn
a1e7d31fb89644e46f55cdb40a62c92a [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t02.shn
db321c6f4fa912b6904cd06d19c77af6 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t03.shn
d46b050e90147f60b15da2a9232cc6cf [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t04.shn
6337a37bf0354b2f83b7137ebf503511 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t05.shn
d6c37de6ec80853ef588076a9d6b985c [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t06.shn
7efc61167420488c08da7e7c8c0575d8 [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t07.shn
cfb29bc1a026adf5e1f7e0c8f5a3a14f [shntool] gd74-05-21d3t08.shn

Perhaps, the previous reviewer's comment at archive.org should have stated that the other SB has much better sound quality than Stella and Aroundx2 (the tracks patched from the AudMC).

At least for the time being, this appears to be the best SBD source patched with the best circulating audience. Absolutely no remastering has been done with the exception of patching the 2 sources together. No audio engineer egos present... I just tried to combine the best of what was available for an awesome show :)
07/24/2008 cool_breeze The beginning of WRS Prelude sounds like its cut. It's missing the opening guitar figure.
07/24/2008 cool_breeze Oops! The cut in Prelude was documented in the text file for 2597.
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